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    11/22/2017 1:03 PM  #1

    Alessandro
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    for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Hi everyone , 
    i have to connect the old 66 wiring with the new 3g alt and regulator . 
    it comes from pa performance , with pigtail for alternator  and a " look a like " regulator .
    From me comes out only headache , looking at the oem wirings that was spliced and adapted to a different regulator.
    the pigtail was missing and now this is the situation . i dont' know how to connect these wires.
    try with no lucy to contact pa performance , they give me only info regarding a generic wiring so not useful.
    the pigtail on regulators has  "  i  a  s  f   "   letters but which colors does corrispond ? 
    please if someone have this 3 g alt  can explain to a dummies how i can fix it ? 
     i dont know if this connection are in right spot 
    the yellow wire were not  used in the previous regulator , now where it goes ? 
    the other black red should be grounded .
    this is the old connection with alt, . From the new alt , comes out only 1 wire  green / red .

    thanks if someone knows something 

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    11/22/2017 2:03 PM  #2

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Go to PAperformance.com

    Click on Alternator tab
    Then, click on Mustang (65-66) alternator upgrade.
    Once that opens, on top of the page, click on the Blog tab
    When it opens, there's a video link tap, open that and watch how they wire up your 3G alternator....
    At the 6 minute point of the video is where you should begin watching....

    Good luck

     

    11/22/2017 3:48 PM  #3

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    josh-kebob wrote:

    Go to PAperformance.com

    Click on Alternator tab
    Then, click on Mustang (65-66) alternator upgrade.
    Once that opens, on top of the page, click on the Blog tab
    When it opens, there's a video link tap, open that and watch how they wire up your 3G alternator....
    At the 6 minute point of the video is where you should begin watching....

    Good luck

    thanks , i have seen this video ,  I dont see the other side connection on regulator  and i have no pigtail on it  
                 i need the color  on      i a s f     letters on regulator   of you know . Thanks 
     

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    11/22/2017 6:23 PM  #4

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Here's the diagram of where the wires went in 66, if it helps....

    http://averagejoerestoration.com/resources/mustang-wiring-and-vacuum-diagrams/1966-wiring-diagrams/66ignit.jpg

     

    11/22/2017 6:53 PM  #5

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

     

    11/23/2017 1:44 AM  #6

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    This is the reply from pa performance

    We do not have a diagram, but the basic instructions are to put our regulator box in place of your factory regulator box and connect your original field wire to the green wire on the harness we provided. The other 2 wires connect directly to the alternator.
    The field wire  It is marked “F” on the voltage regulator.

    The previous picture says to put green red in the I of regolator

    Pa performance says to put the greed Red in f of regolator   .
    Now who is right ?

    I have  only 3 wire for old regolator. Yellow.  Gredn / red.    White /black ( comes from alt)

    As i do not have the pigtail on rdgulator i dont know where to put these wire .

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    11/23/2017 10:20 AM  #7

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Alessandro,
    I know your not converting to a tach, but look at the diagrams in figure 1. There is a difference in how the wires connect to the voltage regulator depending on the use of an Ammeter or a charge indicator light. The diagram comes from the Ford Shop Manual for 67, I haven't found it for a 66. Hope it helps.

    http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/classic-tech/164262d1348605883-1967-mustang-289-tach-install-how-install-tach-67-68-mustang.pdf.
     

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    11/24/2017 12:03 PM  #8

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Bolted to Floor wrote:

    Alessandro,
    I know your not converting to a tach, but look at the diagrams in figure 1. There is a difference in how the wires connect to the voltage regulator depending on the use of an Ammeter or a charge indicator light. The diagram comes from the Ford Shop Manual for 67, I haven't found it for a 66. Hope it helps.

    http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/classic-tech/164262d1348605883-1967-mustang-289-tach-install-how-install-tach-67-68-mustang.pdf.
     

     
    Thanks anyway , but yes i have changed the ammeter into volt meter and i will add the rally pack with tacho
    now is very messy ! And when wire colors dont correspond .... this is a challenge .
    Thanks

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    11/24/2017 1:04 PM  #9

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Get yourself a 1965 mustang charging system wiring diagram. As for the pigtail to connect the regulator Napa sells a replacement.

     

    11/24/2017 3:52 PM  #10

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    The look a like "regulator" is used by PA Performance to keep the factory ampmeter.
    You no longer need it.
    Wire it up like the diagram that Steve69 posted.

    "Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
     

    11/25/2017 3:34 AM  #11

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    50vert wrote:

    The look a like "regulator" is used by PA Performance to keep the factory ampmeter.
    You no longer need it.
    Wire it up like the diagram that Steve69 posted.

     
    Thanks ! 
    I realized that i bought this regulator for nothing , because i got now a new volt meter ....
    After study , video , info and  and diagram i have found which colors need to be connected .

    The video refers to orange  ( mustang 66 is white ) field
    The other one refers to black  ( mustang 66 is black /yellow ) batt on alternator..

    Now i will connect wires and check all is in the right spot .

    Thanks all

    Ps.  I found different wiring colors from  different service books  for the same  users . Beware !

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    11/25/2017 4:39 AM  #12

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    Great .....  just don't forget the resistor.

    "Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
     

    11/25/2017 11:00 AM  #13

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    50vert wrote:

    Great .....  just don't forget the resistor.

    mmm.... i forget some wire ???    what about resistor  ? 

    thanks for help a dummie  ! yep 

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    11/25/2017 4:29 PM  #14

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    Re: for those have swap 1G to 3G alternator , needs help on wiring 66

    'The alternator needs the resistance of a charge indicator light to "excite" the alt to start charging.
    If you look at the diagram that Steve69 posted, you will see a 560 ohm resistor wired inline with the green/red ignition wire.
    This simulates the resistance of a light bulb.
    The diagram also shows a system with a charge light as well .... like a 65. It also has a resistor wired around light bulb .... this is so that it will continue to charge if the light bulb burns out.

    "Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
     

     

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