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6/28/2021 3:09 AM  #1


Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

I pulled my rear axle housing out of my car no problems I'm still alive.

I was curious what type of gizmos you fellas like to use to more efficiently tackle this task newbie. And also what type of fancy gadgets that people have come up with to help hold the axle housing on a hydraulic jack.

 

6/28/2021 5:37 AM  #2


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Easiest way I've done it is support the car on jack stands, then let the axle droop and support it on jack stands.  I use plywood, etc. to get the stands to the exact height I want.  The floor jack is just there to keep the housing from rotating after unbolting the springs.  To get it out from under the vehicle I have a floor jack designed for dropping transmissions that I can strap the axle onto with chains, etc.  That jack came from HF and wasn't terribly expensive as I recall. 

 

6/28/2021 7:58 AM  #3


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

One way I've reinstlled the rear end (a complete assembly) is to unbolt the rear leaf spring hangers and let the them rest on the ground.  Using a floor jack with no "gadgets", although the nose of the carrier will be in a downward direction, jack it up until you can reconnect the rear spring hangers, rest the rear on the springs, then use the jack on the nose of the carrier driveshaft joint (maybe w/a wood spacer) until the rear fits flat on the springs.
This method is very good if you have the brake drums/rotors already installed. 


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

6/28/2021 8:47 AM  #4


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

I first eat a can of spinach....

 

6/28/2021 8:58 AM  #5


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Yeah usually consists of some type of balancing act with a floor jack. I will say in my younger years I would just mount the empty housing and then heave-ho the 3rd member in for 8" and/or 9" rears. That's not happening any more

I've also been considering a DIY version of this https://www.amazon.com/911-motorsports-point-Jack-Adapter/dp/B07979ZHL5 I bought a new welder and have been looking for a project Doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to replicate.

EDIT: Here's some more links https://www.hotrod.com/articles/building-specialized-floor-jack/ 
https://www.google.com/search?q=floor%20jack%20rear%20end%20holder&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CUKrTmO3bCY7YeA9tZs3yCRS&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQuIIBahcKEwjo9q62y7rxAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQDw&biw=1771&bih=1098#imgrc=G0lDxBGLdms-bM

Although I will say I can now appreciate the fact that the rear end housing on my Lightning mounts UNDER the leaf springs. Much easier for 1 person to do.

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6/28/2021 12:25 PM  #6


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

I leave the tires on.  Then jack up the body and set it on jack stands with the springs with no weight.  Then remove the rear shackles.  Remove the front mounting bolts and roll the whole thing out from under.  The axle is never under a jack and nothing can tip over and you have a handy wheel barrow to move the axle to where you want it.


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6/28/2021 3:23 PM  #7


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

josh-kebob wrote:

I first eat a can of spinach....

Dang thats the step I missed. Totally reminded me of popeye and someone else i know. Haha made my day thank you.

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6/28/2021 3:32 PM  #8


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

lowercasesteve wrote:

I leave the tires on.  Then jack up the body and set it on jack stands with the springs with no weight.  Then remove the rear shackles.  Remove the front mounting bolts and roll the whole thing out from under.  The axle is never under a jack and nothing can tip over and you have a handy wheel barrow to move the axle to where you want it.

Thank you. tried to do this should've re installed the wheels before I went to the jack stands and blocks of wood  method. My inner nuts on the leaf shackles were a pain so I removed the wheels to better access them with my ratchet. Also used some rust oleum spray gel rust remover on them dang that helped quite a bit. It was late I was feeling lazy enough not to to want to get out my torch.

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6/28/2021 3:35 PM  #9


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Raymond_B wrote:

Yeah usually consists of some type of balancing act with a floor jack. I will say in my younger years I would just mount the empty housing and then heave-ho the 3rd member in for 8" and/or 9" rears. That's not happening any more

I've also been considering a DIY version of this https://www.amazon.com/911-motorsports-point-Jack-Adapter/dp/B07979ZHL5 I bought a new welder and have been looking for a project Doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to replicate.

EDIT: Here's some more links https://www.hotrod.com/articles/building-specialized-floor-jack/ 
https://www.google.com/search?q=floor%20jack%20rear%20end%20holder&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CUKrTmO3bCY7YeA9tZs3yCRS&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQuIIBahcKEwjo9q62y7rxAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQDw&biw=1771&bih=1098#imgrc=G0lDxBGLdms-bM

Although I will say I can now appreciate the fact that the rear end housing on my Lightning mounts UNDER the leaf springs. Much easier for 1 person to do.

 
Those are cool those are neat gives me some ideas and plus an option to buy thank you.

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6/28/2021 3:53 PM  #10


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Also all this is regarding same subject all on the rear axle housing and third member.

I have two different AoD transmission infact I think the other is an AODE both were given to me to AODE the guy didnt know much about it other it was from a wrecked mustang.  The other 1990
transmission I believe 90' was the cut off when  The Ford Mustang Went to the AODE Transmissions. The 90 trans still sports the kick down linkage thats on the trans the port for the speedometer and the neu ss, and back up Lights. The plus on the 1990 transmission it was just freshly rebuilt for the customer that in turn gave me this after my ole bosses shop nearly finished Restoring his 1990 fox body GT customer pulled due to funds. Cool car also had a supercharger.

Anyways I was curious what type of rear Gears ⚙ would be a good I dea to go along with the Mustang AOD transmission? Also I'm now debating changing the rear drum brakes over to match the front brakes I have MS's kit 13.2" 2013 GT Front Disc's. Any suggestions? Would there be a big stopping improvement by adding rear discs. Also Is the 2000 Mustang V6 non hydroboost the mastercylinder I most likely want. I think I remember seeing someone use a Dodge mastercylinder as it kinda looked a little more at home being black plastic body and black top.

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6/28/2021 4:50 PM  #11


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

http://store.uscartool.com/1965-1971-Mustang-Car-Moving-Body-Wheel-Set_p_88.html this is one of my next things I guess I'll need to make really I only need the rear section so that I dont have to install the rear right away. And I would still be able to move the car. Any ideas on ways to keep the car up a ways so I can work under and in those fun hard to get to areas. Ideas or anything on making a a set of caster wheels for the Mustang would be awesome. What size material should I look at in my mind I'm thinking 1/4" steel for the mounting plate that the caster would mount to the tubing I was thinking like 2" square not sure on the wall thickness maybe 3/16" ? For the plate to to tie the casters together I dont know what size material I was thinking the casters should be as big as I can get and have a high rate.

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6/28/2021 9:54 PM  #12


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

I am scared to see how 6sally6 will answer this.....lol


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6/29/2021 5:10 PM  #13


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

I chained mine to a hydraulic transmission jack.  There were lots of pics of this in a previous post, but probsbly ate gone now😢


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

6/29/2021 7:21 PM  #14


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

True74yamaha wrote:

Also all this is regarding same subject all on the rear axle housing and third member.

I have two different AoD transmission infact I think the other is an AODE both were given to me to AODE the guy didnt know much about it other it was from a wrecked mustang. The other 1990
transmission I believe 90' was the cut off when The Ford Mustang Went to the AODE Transmissions. The 90 trans still sports the kick down linkage thats on the trans the port for the speedometer and the neu ss, and back up Lights. The plus on the 1990 transmission it was just freshly rebuilt for the customer that in turn gave me this after my ole bosses shop nearly finished Restoring his 1990 fox body GT customer pulled due to funds. Cool car also had a supercharger.

Anyways I was curious what type of rear Gears ⚙ would be a good I dea to go along with the Mustang AOD transmission? Also I'm now debating changing the rear drum brakes over to match the front brakes I have MS's kit 13.2" 2013 GT Front Disc's. Any suggestions? Would there be a big stopping improvement by adding rear discs. Also Is the 2000 Mustang V6 non hydroboost the mastercylinder I most likely want. I think I remember seeing someone use a Dodge mastercylinder as it kinda looked a little more at home being black plastic body and black top.

AOD was used in the Mustang through '93.  94 and 95 GT got the AODE controlled by an EEC IV PCM and 96 GT got the 4R70W paired with the 4.6 L modular engine  and controlled by the EEC V PCM.
Unless you want to go with a Bouman (Sp) controller or use a 94/95 PCM if you are running EFI, you will want to go with the AOD.  The gear set in the AOD is the same as the AODE but shift control of the AODE is electronic...AOD is hydraulic.  This gear set is the same ratios as the C4 plus the .67 OD on the AOD.  For rear gears you will likely be happy with a 3.55 or maybe a 3.25.

BB1


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

6/30/2021 2:00 AM  #15


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Bullet Bob wrote:

True74yamaha wrote:

Also all this is regarding same subject all on the rear axle housing and third member.

I have two different AoD transmission infact I think the other is an AODE both were given to me to AODE the guy didnt know much about it other it was from a wrecked mustang. The other 1990
transmission I believe 90' was the cut off when The Ford Mustang Went to the AODE Transmissions. The 90 trans still sports the kick down linkage thats on the trans the port for the speedometer and the neu ss, and back up Lights. The plus on the 1990 transmission it was just freshly rebuilt for the customer that in turn gave me this after my ole bosses shop nearly finished Restoring his 1990 fox body GT customer pulled due to funds. Cool car also had a supercharger.

Anyways I was curious what type of rear Gears ⚙ would be a good I dea to go along with the Mustang AOD transmission? Also I'm now debating changing the rear drum brakes over to match the front brakes I have MS's kit 13.2" 2013 GT Front Disc's. Any suggestions? Would there be a big stopping improvement by adding rear discs. Also Is the 2000 Mustang V6 non hydroboost the mastercylinder I most likely want. I think I remember seeing someone use a Dodge mastercylinder as it kinda looked a little more at home being black plastic body and black top.

AOD was used in the Mustang through '93.  94 and 95 GT got the AODE controlled by an EEC IV PCM and 96 GT got the 4R70W paired with the 4.6 L modular engine  and controlled by the EEC V PCM.
Unless you want to go with a Bouman (Sp) controller or use a 94/95 PCM if you are running EFI, you will want to go with the AOD.  The gear set in the AOD is the same as the AODE but shift control of the AODE is electronic...AOD is hydraulic.  This gear set is the same ratios as the C4 plus the .67 OD on the AOD.  For rear gears you will likely be happy with a 3.55 or maybe a 3.25.

BB1

 
Thanks BB I have seen the controllers for the transmissions but that seems to much to do right now id rather have EFI first. So Ill take your advice and go with the AOD its should last quite a while its supposed to be rebuild with a shift kit
The transmission was in his fox body which up until he had the Restoration done it was his daily driver since 94 or 95 so he has pretty good knowledge about it and seemed like a straight up guy. He just changed his mind and went to a t5 with his 5.0 his loss my gain. Now I just need to buy the AOD swap kit to go along with it. I have 3.73 posi rear gears in my 1985 k10 with a 700r4 and a 350. I know rear gears ⚙  are probably gonna open up cans a worms but would 3.73 be a good combo with the AOD and the 289 its mildly stock for now but do plan on a stroker kit in the future..

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6/30/2021 6:27 AM  #16


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

With the 3.73 you'll be turning around 2500 at 75 in OD.  The 289 should have no problem with that. 


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

7/03/2021 9:25 AM  #17


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Bullet Bob wrote:

With the 3.73 you'll be turning around 2500 at 75 in OD.  The 289 should have no problem with that. 

 
Thank you Bullet Bob 

Anyone have suggestions on shifter linkage for the AOD conversion. I heard some people say that you have to use a 67 and up shift indicator or something like that. Any one have any information on that part of the swap? Also do I need to have the stock drive line shortened?

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7/03/2021 12:11 PM  #18


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Is the shifter arm on your AOD up or down.
I have no experience with pre 67 cars requirements as to a shift mechanism. I had to make an adapter to get the 68 automatic shifter to match the detents and throws in the AOD.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

7/05/2021 6:05 AM  #19


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Rudi wrote:

Is the shifter arm on your AOD up or down.
I have no experience with pre 67 cars requirements as to a shift mechanism. I had to make an adapter to get the 68 automatic shifter to match the detents and throws in the AOD.

I will check and post photos after verification of which orientation the shifter arms in.

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7/05/2021 7:48 AM  #20


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

The adaptor I made. I tend to make things complicated but I did it this way so the rod from the floor shifter couyld be adjusted by experimentation. The other en just goes back to the arm below the floor shift.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

7/05/2021 8:20 AM  #21


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

The photo posting is really messed up here,I cant add another pic to the above message, had to post again.
Here is a picture of the TV cable attachment. Not very clear as to the bracket by the pan.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

7/05/2021 8:28 AM  #22


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Dang
I used to have a great article with pics on how to convert a C4 shifter for use with AOD. I guess it got deleted somehow.  And all the pics got lost when my computer crashed.

Basically I used a C4 shifter but grafted the bottom of a cable operated foxbody shifter to it. If you use an esrly C4 shifter, just file an extra notch in the stops for the D Position.  And get the lower lever arm changed so it hits all the detents. And be sure the whole welded up contraption will fit through the hole in rhe tunnel!


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

7/05/2021 8:41 AM  #23


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

At the carb, 670 Street Avenger.
TV cable, cruise control and throttle rod.
 


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

7/05/2021 11:34 PM  #24


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Dang yall I gotta  move so I live closer to everyone for advice and someone to talk to this sites awesome.  Thank you MS for tip on the FOX shifter I had the Chance to get It for free to but when I went to grab It my Ole BoSs gave me a huge nasty glare. I said what he all thats not going in your 65!!!

Last edited by True74yamaha (7/05/2021 11:45 PM)

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7/05/2021 11:53 PM  #25


Re: Pulled her rear axle housing right from underneath her.

Also your guys opinion keep or cut my sideod my frame rails are a lil krusty on the side od the exhaust reinforcment mount.  https://ibb.co/hx6kvmn bottoms sides and every where else is super clean on the rails the only other rusty spot is the axle stop or what ever its called next to the rear shock mount. Im thinking of just removing them on both sides and then I can easily widen my wheel houses.

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