Getting up the Dura spark parts to try on my car.....what coil do yall

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Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
9/02/2024 2:12 PM
#1

What coil do yall use? . I found the Modules at Summit they were Moto craft but probably not as good as the old Moto crafts. 


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Posted by Rufus68
9/02/2024 2:25 PM
#2

Choose a 12v coil and you won't need a ballast resistor.  I had Pertronix II with the matching FlameThrower II coil before installing the Duraspark II.  I kept the coil.


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 
Posted by 6sally6
9/02/2024 3:02 PM
#3

MSD Blaster (I think!)
Really doesn't make a noticeable difference from the old stock FoMoCo round one........
6sally6


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Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
9/02/2024 3:16 PM
#4

Rufus68 wrote:

Choose a 12v coil and you won't need a ballast resistor.  I had Pertronix II with the matching FlameThrower II coil before installing the Duraspark II.  I kept the coil.

Yeah my Pertronix Distributor is the Pertronix lll and requires the pertronix lll that has the Low  0.32 ohms. So I figured it may not work with the Dura spark.
 

Last edited by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA (9/05/2024 8:45 PM)


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Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
9/02/2024 3:22 PM
#5

6sally6 wrote:

MSD Blaster (I think!)
Really doesn't make a noticeable difference from the old stock FoMoCo round one........
6sally6

I  was wondering about the internal and external resistor it was say on some of the coils and some were 40,000 and some said 45,000 volts .
I will be using a 1975 Granada distributor with steel gear,,motocraft  module with the blue,I ordered the required plugs and gonna use the Mustangsteve schematic to hook it all up.

 


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Posted by Bolted to Floor
9/03/2024 6:27 AM
#6

I went digging through Rock auto and found a car with a Duraspark then bought the matching coil. It has give me no trouble, but it seems like the ignition is lacking to burn all the gas at idle and have been told to make the ignition hotter. I will swap the existing coil for what was used on the fuel injected 5.0 motors. Had the new coil for a while, but haven't took the time to install!!


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Posted by Rufus68
9/03/2024 4:44 PM
#7

From everything I could read, I don't see how your .3 ohm coil could hurt the Duraspark II module since only the neg post of the coil is wired to the Duraspark module.  Since the coil you have will not overheat being connected to a full 12v input, I think it should work fine.  If this is false, I'd love to understand why for future reference.

Edit:  Pertronix list your Flame-thrower III coil at 0.32 ohm not 0.032.  I think it will work fine.
 

Last edited by Rufus68 (9/03/2024 4:46 PM)


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Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
9/08/2024 1:12 PM
#8

Rufus68 wrote:

From everything I could read, I don't see how your .3 ohm coil could hurt the Duraspark II module since only the neg post of the coil is wired to the Duraspark module.  Since the coil you have will not overheat being connected to a full 12v input, I think it should work fine.  If this is false, I'd love to understand why for future reference.

Edit:  Pertronix list your Flame-thrower III coil at 0.32 ohm not 0.032.  I think it will work fine.
 

It says my Petronix lll coill is .32 ohms specifically designed to work with Petronix lll distributor says it wont even work with the Pertonix l or ll only the lll.
 


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Posted by Rufus68
9/08/2024 2:08 PM
#9

I looked up the Flame-Thrower III coil on the Pertronix site.  Below is what it listed.  It says it will work with most capacitive boxes.   I'm sure it will work with the Duraspark II box.


  • 45,000 volts.
  • Ultra Low 0.32 primary resistance.
  • Compatible with the Ignitor III and most capacitive discharge boxes.
  • Charges to peak current typically 30-70% faster than other coils.
  • Rapid charge time means maximum spark energy is sustained to higher engine RPM.

Edit:  The site did not say it will not work with the Ignitor II or the Ignitor I systems.  I bet it would work fine and even charge faster.

 

Last edited by Rufus68 (9/08/2024 2:10 PM)


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 
Posted by TKOPerformance
9/08/2024 3:48 PM
#10

I would follow their instructions.  I've run their coil and Ignitor I for a long time with no issues.  I had an Ignitor fail when I left the key on for too long doing some testing.  I learned the hard way to disconnect the Ignitor if I need to do that.  It clearly says not to do it in their instructions, but I'd installed the Ignitor like 20 years before and didn't realize.  Point being, I feel Pertronix knows their products well and if they say don't do something I wouldn't. 

 
Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
9/08/2024 4:39 PM
#11

I ordered a regular Petronix coil off amazon was about 10 dollars cheaper well 20 dollars cheaper cause I got free shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00199F2WW?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1


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Posted by Rufus68
9/08/2024 4:46 PM
#12

Based on what I read, I'd cancel that order and at least order the FlameThrower II.  The FlameThrower coil web page mentioned only the inductive ignition systems.


  • 40,000 volts.
  • Available chrome plated or black for that "stock look".
  • For use with inductive ignition systems.
  • 1.5 or 3.0 Ohm primary resistance values available.
  • Legal in all 50 states and Canada. (C.A.R.B. E.O. #D-57-21)

Look at the FlameThrower II coil:  It lists both types of ignition systems.

  • 45,000 volts.
  • Available chrome plated or black for that "stock look".
  • For use with inductive or CD ignition systems.
  • Low 0.6 Ohm primary resistance.
  • Legal in all 50 states and Canada. (C.A.R.B. E.O. #D-57-21)


 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 
Posted by Rufus68
9/08/2024 4:46 PM
#13

Actually, I'd run the FlameThrower III coil that you already have.  It should work the best with the Duraspark and give the hottest spark.


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 
Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
9/08/2024 5:28 PM
#14

Rufus68 wrote:

Actually, I'd run the FlameThrower III coil that you already have.  It should work the best with the Duraspark and give the hottest spark.

I will try it on there too.I am gonna put the Duraspark syatem on  and try it and if it runs good I will try the coil...just trying to do some eliminations on what may be causing my new engine to lack the power I feel it should have. read alot where the Pertronix coils and distributors fail....i did have the pertronix l conversion on my old car and never had a problem ...but something is going on for sure.

Last edited by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA (9/08/2024 5:30 PM)


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Posted by Rufus68
9/08/2024 7:35 PM
#15

The Internet is full of things to read giving all points of view.  And people post more often when reporting something negative.  I can see where your investigation into your engine performance can be very difficult without having real data to go by.
 
Imagining the number of Pertronix coils that are in use, That "large" number of failures might actually be a small percentage.  It is just impossible to know without accurate data.
 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 
Posted by TKOPerformance
9/09/2024 6:01 AM
#16

Rufus68 wrote:

The Internet is full of things to read giving all points of view.  And people post more often when reporting something negative.  I can see where your investigation into your engine performance can be very difficult without having real data to go by.
 
Imagining the number of Pertronix coils that are in use, That "large" number of failures might actually be a small percentage.  It is just impossible to know without accurate data.
 

That's my point of view as well.  There could be a million satisfied customers who never posted a review, but 10 failures where a disgruntled customer did make the product look failure prone, even though that's only a 0.001% failure rate.

Another thing you can never qualify is installation error.  That disgruntled customer is NEVER going to admit they didn't read the instructions, or did something they shouldn't have.  People it seems often feel a product should be good enough to not fail due to their own stupidity. 
 

 
Posted by Steve69
9/09/2024 7:43 AM
#17

I bought my sons on Rock Auto.  After we got some wiring bugs worked out its been working good.  

 
Posted by John Ha
9/09/2024 8:24 AM
#18

When I converted I left the pink wire in the circuit.  I first used it with the stock coil that had been on it with the points.  It was OK but I decided that maybe it could be better.  So I bought a "Performance" coil.  It worked OK too but seemed about the same as the points coil.  But when I changed to a coil used with the DuraSpark on the Fords (mine's from a 77 Versailles), it made a noticeable improvement.  So I've stayed with that.


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