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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » More 331 progress, and a question for Saginaw Gen II owners » 12/02/2021 9:43 PM

Daze
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This is the EPAS unit I will be putting in my Mustang.  Should go nicely with my manual rac
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6264/pbbgty.jpg

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » More 331 progress, and a question for Saginaw Gen II owners » 12/02/2021 7:50 PM

Daze
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MS wrote:

Thanks for the ideas! I like to do things once and be done whenever possible.

I hear you there.  In my case I thought I did it correctly the first time but didn't realize that hose movement would be an issue.  The second time was because I had to special order the parts I pictured and it was "driving season"  a big thing in MT.  I wish I could have done it correctly from the beginning 😁😁😁

Not all of them are as expensive as others this one is only $60 but goes across the front so it may or may not work for you.
https://www.eddiemotorsports.com/product-p/ms100-03s.htm
https://cdn3.volusion.com/ocahb.tgrdw/v/vspfiles/photos/MS100-03S-3T.jpg?v-cache=1560253787

Then there is this one from holley $70
https://www.jegs.com/i/Holley/510/198-203/10002/-1
https://images.holley.com/holley_mid_mount_-13.jpg


This one is $35
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gos-131263
https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/xlarge/gos-131263_xl.jpg

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » More 331 progress, and a question for Saginaw Gen II owners » 12/02/2021 3:25 PM

Daze
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I was doing more looking trying to find the hard line part number I originally used and I found a banjo fitting that lots of aftermarket sellers now offer.(the one NOS681 mentioned)  Looks like a much better way to go other than the cost being way to high IMHO.
https://www.ecklers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/e8278bb62b6191f0a2c63cf38a3ced70/e/p/33-257429-1.jpg

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » More 331 progress, and a question for Saginaw Gen II owners » 12/02/2021 3:17 PM

Daze
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MS wrote:

Ok, that makes more sense if the pump was mounted on the passenger side on original installations.
How about some pics, Daze? That hard line is my plan, but it will be a tight fit. What size fitting is on the pump? It is not SAE inverted flare.

There is a universal repair kit you can get at your local auto parts store with a hard line and the correct fitting.  Sorry I can't find the part number.  (they let me wonder in the back and look at what they had when I needed to replace what I started with) When I originally did mine it came up and then angled back back towards the rear of the car.  Problem I had was the line would move and loosen up the fitting.  As a temporary fix I went strait up and have my PS line attached (custom line that goes to my hydroboost).  It is not pretty but it does the job for now.  My long term goal is to use an AN-6 fitting and then use an-6 sleeves so I can make a custom line that better suits the application.

The fitting on the left is what I started with, came on a used pump I had.  The fitting in the middle is the -6 adapter that I will be using eventually and the steel tube adaptors are to the right.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/513/OJcDaQ.jpg
[img]​https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3404/8sUMCK.jpg[/img]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3404/8sUMCK.jpg


This is the temporary set up not the best looking but gets the job done until I have time to do it correctly.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6831/hHmu3e.jpg

 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » More 331 progress, and a question for Saginaw Gen II owners » 12/01/2021 2:37 PM

Daze
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I have one on the Galaxie.  The pump is "universal" and by changing the reservoir you can change the positioning.  On the majority of the JM cars the pump goes on the passengers side and is clocked 90º which makes the hose location ideal.  On my Galaxie I am using the same type you are and I made a small hard line to clear the pump and then attached the PS line to my hard line.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » I did an expensive thing » 11/29/2021 9:07 PM

Daze
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Nos681 wrote:

“393 Galaxie”…. Nice ring to that thing.

A lot of them came with 390FEs and a 4-speed so i's thinking the 393W and 5-speed should be about perfect.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Tools you modified or repaired » 11/24/2021 11:31 PM

Daze
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MS wrote:

 
That is a nice-to-have tool, Daze

Thanks!!!  After an afternoon in the shop it’s a set of 5: 7/16”-11/16”

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4040/W5SPyj.jpg

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Tools you modified or repaired » 11/24/2021 2:33 PM

Daze
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I am working on making a set of expanding mandrels for my lathe.  Best part is these were made from an old worn out Mustang strut rod.  I love making things from junk.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5965/oE1Yok.jpg

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Tools you modified or repaired » 11/23/2021 4:10 PM

Daze
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Bentworker wrote:

I'm at a loss on the thing with the two tapered mandrels welded to it, they look like ring mandrels.  Maybe for tying balloons?

 

If it is what I think it is it is for forming sheet metal.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Tools you modified or repaired » 11/23/2021 12:03 PM

Daze
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Greg B wrote:

It is. I'm not taking credit for the tool, just adding a bearing.
 

 
I wasnt implying you were taking credit, I was just saying they’re similar. The one on my page has a wheel bearing too.
https://dazecars.com/dazed/compressor/bearingassembly.jpg

I wasn’t the first to make this sort of compressor so I don’t get the credit either 😁😁😁

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Tools you modified or repaired » 11/22/2021 11:41 PM

Daze
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Greg B wrote:

Hey, I actually have a pair of those hose clamp pliers!  Lol.  Guess what this is?  Since we all know, I'm showing my contribution to it.  An old outer wheel bearing that got a second life.

https://i.ibb.co/mR0BSJ8/IMG-20211121-085745674.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/vZcsZPH/IMG-20211121-085800538.jpg

 
Looks like the one I give fab info for on my website.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/19/2021 10:59 AM

Daze
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MS wrote:

Align bore it and deck the block, as well. This is the one from the fire, right?

Did the cam spin freely when installed?  Cam is always the VERY FIRST THING I install.

It wasn’t a fire, it was run with no oil and melted the cam bearings. rest of the bearings were fine. Once I put in new cam bearings the cam slipped in no issue and spun freely.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/19/2021 9:12 AM

Daze
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Alan wrote:

Was this the first engine you ran on this test stand?
 

No I have run another 351w on the run stand with out issues.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/19/2021 9:11 AM

Daze
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bulletbirdman wrote:

Daze, I know you've given up on this but a thought came to mind the cam retainer plate behind the timing gear.

What about it?

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/18/2021 3:21 PM

Daze
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I'm giving up trying to find the issue.  I am going to finish taring the block down and then I am going to do what I should have done in the begining.  The block is headed to the machibe shop to be machined .030" over.  When I get it back I will order a 393 stroker kit and put it all back together.  Most Galaxies came with 390s so I think the 393 will be about right.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/15/2021 10:50 PM

Daze
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Nos681 wrote:

Have you checked the diameter of the lifters to their respective bores?

Perhaps….
At higher rpms, more oil can pump up the lifters to lessen the clatter.
To me, it never goes away in first video.

Perhaps more stuff made it’s way inside the lifters.

Lifters were a good fit (both sets)

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/15/2021 5:02 PM

Daze
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Bolted to Floor wrote:

Since it's all apart, take the time to measure the pistons and bores. If there is a tad too much clearance, the pistons might be rocking in the bore. 

Okay I have researched it a bit and if that was the case it should go away or at least decrease as the engine warms up.
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/15/2021 4:52 PM

Daze
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Bolted to Floor wrote:

Since it's all apart, take the time to measure the pistons and bores. If there is a tad too much clearance, the pistons might be rocking in the bore. 

how much is too much?
 

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/15/2021 12:36 PM

Daze
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When we first started to try and solve this issue as a group (previous thread), we looked at valve train.  I primed the system and had good oil at all 16 valves, I replaced the lifters, I shimmed the rockers for correct preload, I replaced the oil pump with a high volume unit, confirmed all pushrods were strait, and I even swapped the heads out to a set I knew were good from another running engine.  No change.

I know it is NOT a clearance issue.  This combination was using an electric fuel pump, there are no contact points on any surfaces AND the sound goes away above 1500 RPM.  If it was lifters hitting valve covers or something in the bellhousing RPM would only change the intensity of the sound and the pitch but more RPM would not make it go away.  It also goes away at idle if I choke the motor or lean it way out. (this is why I figured it was a wrist pin issue by changing the combustion I eliminated the sound)   I discovered this when I was burning up the last of the fuel in the carb.  As the bowl ran out of fuel and the mix went way lean the noise went away.  On the flip side if I covered the carb with my hands and just let enough air in to keep it running the noise went away.  It has to be in the rotating assembly, I just wish I could find an obvious cause.  That is why I was asking about the wrist pins and how to inspect them.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/14/2021 10:15 AM

Daze
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It is the stock press styile wrist pins.  The pistons move extreamly freely but there is no slop.  They rotate as designed, no drag.  The noise I was having was imediate.  The engine cold was just as loud as the engine hot.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Disassembly of a fresh rebuild is fascinating, wrist pain issue help? » 11/13/2021 8:01 PM

Daze
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Some of you are familiar with my 351w rebuild: it was a rering with only a hone job and all new bearings. All went well and it ran strong BUT it sounded like a diesel below 1500rpm. Did lots of testing and parts swaps, it was getting good oiling, but couldn’t find the issue. It was determined through this group that it was probably a wrist pin. Yesterday I tore it down and it looked good, bearings looked great, rings were seating well and getting shiny on the friction surface, and the cylinder walls were two different colors where the rings were seating. It was very interesting to see. What I couldn’t find was an obviously bad wrist pin. If you had the piston in hand how would you identify a bad wrist pin?

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351W rocker clatter » 10/13/2021 8:20 AM

Daze
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John Ha wrote:

Probably something loose and rattling on your engine stand

It’s not. Clearly coming from the engine and I have had other engines on the run stand with out noise.

FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » 351W rocker clatter » 10/11/2021 4:10 PM

Daze
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Quicksilver wrote:

Daze, Just something that hasn't been mentioned. Have you changed the fuel pump, and checked the bolts on the eccentric for the pump?

Good thought but it’s electric

Board footera


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