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    3/16/2020 1:33 PM  #1

    Nos681
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    Speedi sleeve question

    Ran across this last year and never asked ?

    Where is this sleeve used on the transmission?
    In the transmission?
    On Slip yoke?

    Look at details for dimensions.

    I did change the speedo gear in transmission a few years ago...prior to to seeing this item.

    Just wondering more than anything else.



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    3/16/2020 2:35 PM  #2

    RV6
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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Ima gonna guess the slip yoke

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    3/16/2020 4:47 PM  #3

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Yep.......changed a couple.......second one is always EZ'er.   IF you have an issue.........I/we can walk you thru.   Super-simple.
    6s6

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    3/16/2020 4:50 PM  #4

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Never seen them used for a slip joint. Mostly for a fix area that's badly worn. Exp. like engine damper.

     

    3/16/2020 5:03 PM  #5

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    mighta spoke too soon!!!.........I was talking bout the SEAL.......not the sleevage.
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    3/16/2020 5:13 PM  #6

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Seems like the slip yoke has to also fit snugly into the rear bushing sleeve in the tailshaft.  I don’t see how a repair sleeve would work there.
    Have never dealt with s sleeve in a tranny. I bet Glen knows...

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    3/16/2020 6:10 PM  #7

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Yeah, if it gets that bad you just replace the yoke, or have the whole thing machined undersized and fully sleeved if its NLA.  I see no way a sleeve works in this instance due to the dynamic range of motion of the yoke and the need for it to fit into the tailshaft bushing.  Typically they are used for 1 piece rear main seals and balancers.  They work, but those parts don't move in and out.  Hopefully anyway...

     

    3/17/2020 7:39 AM  #8

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Speedi-Sleeves, Redi-Sleeves, Repair Sleeves, whatever you want to call them, are most commonly used to repair a sealing surface that has been cut or damaged by the lip of the seal. I have most often used them to repair spindles that have been damaged by the grease seal in the wheel hub. When you get dirt stuck in the grease you have a file that likes to cut a groove in the spindle.
    I have never measured one but these sleeves are only about .005" thick which makes the OD of the sealing surface .010" larger in diameter than it originally was. The rubber in the seal can easily expand to accommodate this .010" larger diameter.
    You can't use one to repair a drive shaft yoke because the bushing inside the tailshaft housing is metal and cannot accept a yoke that is larger than standard in diameter. As TKO said, if you have a damaged yoke the only way to repair it would be to turn or grind it undersize and then sleeve it back to standard. That would be extremely expensive so it would only be done on a yoke that is made of unobtainium.
    I have been told that there is only one company that manufactures these sleeves and then they are sold to SKF, Timken, National, etc who resell them in their box with their name on it.
    FWIW: Ford 8" and 9" rear axles both have the same size sealing surface and as I recall it is about 1.375" OD. The company that makes the sleeves does not make that size so if your axle's sealing surface has been damaged you must obtain a replacement axle. I have never understood why they don't make that size.
     

     

    3/17/2020 11:10 AM  #9

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    This reason I’m asking...where would it be used on the transmission?  Still corn-fused about it.  It wouldn’t surprise me that a “salesman” said it could be used there.
    Just like on eBay,Amazon, and many more.

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    3/17/2020 12:13 PM  #10

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Nos681 wrote:

    ..where would it be used on the transmission?

    On input shaft #5 where it passes through seal #3.

    http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/largeexplodedview.htm

     

    3/18/2020 4:40 PM  #11

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Texas! wrote:

    Nos681 wrote:

    ..where would it be used on the transmission?

    On input shaft #5 where it passes through seal #3.

    http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/largeexplodedview.htm

     
    Don’t know if you noticed that the listing is for a 92 mustang, manual transmission.
    My 92 had a T5 behind the 5.0L

    I seriously don’t know where it would be used on T5.
    Input shaft?
    The output shaft seal rides on slip yoke.

    This is more curiosity than anything else.

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    3/18/2020 10:35 PM  #12

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Every Ford manual transmission I've seen is made the same way- the input shaft is held in place by the bearing retainer which also serves as the "guide" for the throwout bearing. And I'm sure you'll find the same thing on other brands of manual transmissions.
    Seal #070 and input shaft #670 on the T5.
    https://www.drivetrain.com/parts-catalog/manual-transmission-rebuild-kits-and-parts/t5-5-speed-manual-transmission-illustration

     

    3/19/2020 6:45 AM  #13

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    Re: Speedi sleeve question

    Texas! wrote:

    Every Ford manual transmission I've seen is made the same way- the input shaft is held in place by the bearing retainer which also serves as the "guide" for the throwout bearing. And I'm sure you'll find the same thing on other brands of manual transmissions.
    Seal #070 and input shaft #670 on the T5.
    https://www.drivetrain.com/parts-catalog/manual-transmission-rebuild-kits-and-parts/t5-5-speed-manual-transmission-illustration

    Actually every RWD manual transmission I've ever seen is made that way.  Unless a new input shaft is unavailable I wouldn't even mess with trying to sleeve it.  The sleeve is thin, but you're increasing diameter, and I'm not sure what this does to the seal by stretching it long term.  This is not an area you want a leak, because fixing it requires removal of the trans and disassembly.  Also, I've never seen an input shaft trashed on the sealing surface.  Not that it couldn't happen, but of the dozens of transmissions I've had apart of all makes and models to have never seen an issue in this area would to me make it at least quite uncommon. 

    The T5 was the only manual transmission offered in the Fox Mustang starting in '83, and running through 5.0 SN95 production which ended in '95.  Though, V6 cars continued to use the T5 for another decade or so. 

     

     

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