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10/19/2020 6:02 PM  #1


Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

The little stub that the shifter handle bolts to is very floppy on my T-5.
I took it apart... and the ball fits pretty tight in the plastic cup butt.......it seems to be  more toward the bottom of the cup than it should be. The two ears (on either side of the stubby shaft) are down toward the bottom their slotsalso.
I THINK.........I will make a spacer to fit inside the plastic cup that will elevate the ball up a little higher. Doing this will make the two ears higher in their respective slots. There are 3 thin pieces of spring steel that tend to limit the two ears from coming out of their slots. Therefore........my home-made spacer will need to be 'just' thick enough to make  the ears move to the top of their slots.
I used a piece of copper tubing filed down just enough to slip inside the plastic cup and tall enough to move the two ears up. My thinking is........the copper is soft enough the ball can rotate on  it with out doing any damage to either one, yet tough enough to last  long time. 

Anybody else have a 'cure' for their floppy thingee?
6sal6


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10/19/2020 6:48 PM  #2


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

Yes!  My cure was to just stop trying to use it.


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

10/20/2020 8:22 AM  #3


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

https://i.ibb.co/WV5hgLR/FCC7-D796-E80-A-47-C6-BDAD-D9743-EB94-E99.png


Mine has springs on each side with a “button/hat shim” so it helps return to center.

Of course i can’t find a picture with all parts.
In the spring pockets, there is a steel shim/guide that spring fits into.
After cleaning and some lubrication it works much better.

Not sure if yours is setup the same.

Your copper sleeve might put too much pressure on that plastic socket.


65 coupe, 5.0L, T5, 3.25 Currie traction lock, strong arming for now
 

10/20/2020 9:42 AM  #4


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

Nos681 wrote:

https://i.ibb.co/WV5hgLR/FCC7-D796-E80-A-47-C6-BDAD-D9743-EB94-E99.png




Your copper sleeve might put too much pressure on that plastic socket.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is my concern. Checking local parts stores  TO 'SEE' IF they have it
6s6
 


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10/20/2020 9:49 AM  #5


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

https://lmr.com/item/LRS-7453A/84-04-Mustang-T5-T45-Shifter-Dampener-Bushing

Used for many years.  Local junkyard?

Last edited by Nos681 (10/20/2020 9:51 AM)


65 coupe, 5.0L, T5, 3.25 Currie traction lock, strong arming for now
 

10/20/2020 10:42 AM  #6


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

Suggest contacting Paul Cangialosi at www.5Speeds.com.  He helped me with my T-5 5th gear synchro issue. 


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

10/20/2020 11:44 AM  #7


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

Remove stock shifter.

Throw stock shifter in trash where it belongs.

Buy & install Pro 5.0 shifter.

Problem solved forever. 

https://www.mcssl.com/store/pro50performance/catalog/product/aba304afce814250a701d255ae4df777

I have 3 of these, two on T5s, one on a T56.  They are the best shifter on Earth, period.  If you ever drive the car hard you will 100% break something if you do not have a shifter with positive stops.  I have a pile of broken T5 forks and a couple of broken T56 3/4 forks to attest to this.  Its not a question of if; its a question of when.  The Pro 5.0 pays for itself by preventing this. 

Last edited by TKOPerformance (10/21/2020 5:18 AM)

 

10/20/2020 6:56 PM  #8


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

10/21/2020 7:08 AM  #9


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

That doesn’t appear to be for t5/t45 Steve.


65 coupe, 5.0L, T5, 3.25 Currie traction lock, strong arming for now
 

10/21/2020 2:05 PM  #10


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

That's definitely a Tremec TKO500/TKO600 shifter that's shown. 

 

10/21/2020 4:42 PM  #11


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

https://i.ibb.co/WpW8DV9/IMG-1077.jpg

perv

https://i.ibb.co/PhS1DFZ/IMG-1079.jpg


https://i.ibb.co/zQCn3LS/IMG-1080.jpg


Couldn't find a bushing so I 'fabbed' one......ain't that what hot rodd'in is all about?
Made it out of a bronze pilot bushing. Feels a lot better (tighter shifting) bronze should hold oil very well!
We'll see!
6sally6


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10/21/2020 8:27 PM  #12


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

Is the top just crimped on?

If so, might want to make a real top plate...like 1” thick.😁
Ok... at least thicker than sheetmetal.
Especially since you have it torn apart already.😂


65 coupe, 5.0L, T5, 3.25 Currie traction lock, strong arming for now
 

10/22/2020 5:00 AM  #13


Re: Anybody got a "floppy-thingy" on their T-5?!

The biggest issue is not the slop in the shifter; that's merely annoying.

The problem/danger is that there are no positive stops in the transmission or factory shifter to prevent over travel.  This is not an issue if you shift like a grandmother, but if you bang gears hard the stock shifter allows you to put considerable pressure on the forks, which cannot move any farther once the slider has bottomed out on the speed gear.  The stock forks are just aluminum.  Aluminum doesn't take well to being bent, and it also develops stress risers from fatigue and fails, even if it wasn't bent enough to cause permanent deformation.  Point being, if you drive the car like a red blooded American male you will eventually break a fork.  This is why nearly all aftermarket shifters include stops.  The Pro 5.0 is simply the best made, using the best materials. 

The rail shifting system used in the T5 and all Tremec transmissions is very smooth and works quit well, but its lack of stops is another reason why people often consider the T5 breakage prone.  Old top and side loader transmissions didn't have this issue because they used steel forks, and typically the shift rods would flex before anything else was stressed enough to cause grief. 

 

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