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2/07/2021 3:23 PM  #1


FAQ question

Hi,

i’ve been here a while but never posted I usually just read through until I find what I’m looking for information wise.I’m curious as to what happened to the facts and questions page. I can’t seem to find it,the link is dead was looking for some info on the brake pedals and brackets And there was always a lot of good Info there.

Last edited by 67fbck73 (2/07/2021 3:25 PM)

 

2/07/2021 4:14 PM  #2


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Michael has been redoing the web site. Supposedly that stuff will reappear some day.


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2/07/2021 5:01 PM  #3


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Oh ok thanks Steve. Lots of good info there.

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2/07/2021 8:43 PM  #4


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It's kinda slow........go ahead and ask your question!!!
I can almost guarantee the answer!!
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2/07/2021 9:46 PM  #5


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Ditto 6sally6


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2/08/2021 10:56 AM  #6


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Well you will probably regret that lol. It's the dreaded brake pedal height question again. This is on my 67 mustang. I'm running a 67auto power brake pedal  (got to shave it down for the smaller pedal pad still. running a manual trans now) I've got Steve's brakes all 4 corners the newer gt brakes 13.2 front 13 rear a Bendix booster and 2000 gt master. I also made a custom aluminum spacer for the booster .675 thick. I measured one of the stamped steel ones to copy the thickness as I recall so hopefully that was correct .  I made the aluminum one to shore up the firewall I'm a cad cam operator/cnc machinist/toolmaker so it seemed like a simple project. So the question is do you see any reason I cant take this spacer down to .400 thick? The pedal is approximately .25 away from the pedal stop aka clutch tube. google dice roller d20 

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2/08/2021 11:15 AM  #7


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oops actually a 2000 v6 master I think.

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2/08/2021 11:23 AM  #8


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Help me out here......(at least this will give you a bump-to-the-top).....
The spacer 'sandwiches' the firewall between the booster and pedal assembly..right?
IF it's just for reinforcement...sure is a thick piece!
I would think a thinner (and maybe a wider) piece would work better....giving you the extra .25 (or more) you are looking for.
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2/08/2021 11:38 AM  #9


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Thanks
Yes that is where it goes but it is replacing the original stamped steel metal spacer that was supposed to be there(i didn't get one with the booster and a friend let me measure there's) I read about people putting washers in behind the stamped one to make it a more solid mount and figured i would just make it out of a solid piece of aluminum  the car had a booster from different car in it when I got it pushrod was going in at a weird angle it was all sorts of hacked up.

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2/08/2021 12:07 PM  #10


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After you trim the brake pedal you'll want to flatten the edge where the new cut is located. Otherwise you'll have a heck of a time fitting the brake pedal pad.


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2/08/2021 12:47 PM  #11


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Oh ok  I see thanks  Bob

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2/08/2021 10:05 PM  #12


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I used to build and sell billet spacers like that for the bendix boosters. It keeps the firewall from deforming when the booster nuts are tightened.  A good part to have !

The ones we built were 9/16” thick. 

Any thicker and the brake pedal will sit too low.  With a brake pedal ratio of 3:1, every 1/16” of extra thickness will lower the static pedal height by 3/16”, just for example.

I do not see an issue with making it a little thinner.

But remember, if you are comparing the new, lower pedal height with the old manual brake pedal, IT IS SUPPOSED TO SIT ABOUT AN INCH LOWER WITH POWER BRAKES!

With the original manual brake pedal ratio of 6:1 vs the new ratio of 3:1, the pedal’s total travel will be about half what it used to be, so it will not go farther down than the original one, even though it starts out 1” lower.
That was an advantage to having power brakes with a quicker pedal ratio. You don’t have to lift your foot as high up to get onto the brake pedal.

So, if your concern is the power brake pedal sits 1” lower than the old manual brake pedal, that is the way the factory intended it and is no cause for concern.


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2/09/2021 8:51 AM  #13


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Thanks Steve
I think I will try .47  thick. It should  bring the pedal up about  1/2"  higher than stock. It still wont be hitting the stop at that point and should leave it 1/2" below the clutch. I just measured my fiesta and the Brake is 1/2" below the clutch and that works pretty good for me as far as feel. I'm only 5'6" tall so probably has something to do with the vertically challenged population  lol. 

Chris

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2/09/2021 10:12 AM  #14


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You DO have the correct pedal and booster, right?

The 67-69 pedal measures 5.0” centerline of pivot to centerline of actuation pin. The booster will have the curved input shaft that bends down about 1/2” to the actuation pin. (Not straight like the 70 booster).

Note: I edited that pedal dimension to 5.0” since I originally “misremembered” it thinking it was 5.5”. Thanks BearingBob for the reminder.

Last edited by MS (2/09/2021 6:21 PM)


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2/09/2021 11:29 AM  #15


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I have the curved booster shaft Bendix booster for a 69 if i remember correctly. The pedal c/l pivot to actuator pin is 5.00 almost positive its the correct pedal the rod runs straight to the booster its not skewed or crooked. 

Last edited by 67fbck73 (2/09/2021 12:10 PM)

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2/09/2021 1:37 PM  #16


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This is the power brake pedal I removed from my 69.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/09/2021 1:52 PM  #17


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Thanks Bob,
My pedal is 5" center to center as well. I Was going to put up a pic like yours but for some reason its not letting me upload them now.

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2/09/2021 6:23 PM  #18


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Thanks guys.  I edited my previous post with this comment on the pedal dimension:

Note: I edited that pedal dimension to 5.0” since I originally “misremembered” it thinking it was 5.5”. Thanks BearingBob for the reminder.

Somebody should make an FAQ page about pedals and boosters so I don’t have to remember all these details.  Oh... wait....   Michael, quit deleting all that stuff!!!


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2/10/2021 8:54 AM  #19


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Thanks Steve,
Yep those pages were pretty useful. Helped me id the Granada brakes I used to have. Set up the old duraspark ignition. I still use the threaded rod trick to set the intake manifold down on the gaskets you had up there.

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