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3/10/2021 3:21 PM  #1


Distrubitor curves

I have a new stock distributor and at 2000 rpm I am only getting 24 deg ???  This is with vac disconnected and at 8 base
Do I first need to get the base line at 12 then check the mechanical??


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3/10/2021 4:16 PM  #2


Re: Distrubitor curves

I have always started at 12 deg.


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3/10/2021 4:21 PM  #3


Re: Distrubitor curves

Does it stop advancing at 24 degrees total? All in at 2000 rpm seems a little soon, but if that's where it is, you can try putting it at 18 deg initial timing for total of 34. If it cranks O.K. when hot - you should be all right. Drive it around and see. It seems that 34 to 36 degrees total is about where youll want to be.

 

3/10/2021 5:35 PM  #4


Re: Distrubitor curves

Sounds like you have 16* mechanical advance + 8* = 24* total advance.
Give it 4* more initial and see what it does.(12*)
Check it to see if it 'exceeds' 36* (above 2000RPM.) If so how much?
The light advance springs let it advance.... quicker(at a lower RPM)
Sometimes....stock heads need even more than 36* total advance!
They are pretty inefficient....need a LOTTA lead at upper RPM's
36* is a good average.....
Lotsa factors are involved too......type of tranny.....final gear ratio...weight of vehicle....
type/grade of FUEL (big one!)...condition of starter....condition of battery.
Be sure and 're-tune' your carb.....(should be able to lower curb idle...decrease size of transition slot.) There should be an improved  "snap" in rev-ability at idle.
6s6


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3/10/2021 6:40 PM  #5


Re: Distrubitor curves

OK 6s6    I will bump to 12 when I get it up and running friday, also you asked it has a new C4, and the heads were ported on the exhaust side, butt gears are 280s, new mini starter and battery, also has pentorex and coil.
Due to my problems with the valves they mite not even been closing. I had the idle set at 900 and in gear it was 750. 


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3/10/2021 7:45 PM  #6


Re: Distrubitor curves

Just a 'wild-a$$ guess' butt   with A/T and 2.80 gears you MAY....get a little rattle at low speed and high gear acceleration.
One of those times you'll hafta play-with-it and tune it with different springs....carb adjustment....etc.
6sal6


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3/10/2021 10:50 PM  #7


Re: Distrubitor curves

yeah like ping Didnt here any as of yet, but its been rather quite in the garage


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3/11/2021 6:19 AM  #8


Re: Distrubitor curves

Does the timing continue to increase as RPM increases?  At 3,000RPM do you still only have 24 degrees, or is it now 30?

 

3/12/2021 9:16 AM  #9


Re: Distrubitor curves

It increases as it goes up. We will see where we are today when i fire it up and set it at 12 degs.

Last edited by Cab4word67 (3/12/2021 9:16 AM)


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3/12/2021 2:55 PM  #10


Re: Distrubitor curves

There are two things that can be changed inside the distributor with regard to timing: springs and the breaker plate.  The breaker plate will have two slots, something like 10 and 13.  You get double the number stamped into the plate, so 10 is 20 and 13 is 26.  The arm only rides in one slot.  One way to get more advance without having to run a ton of initial advance is to flip the plate 180 degrees and put the arm in the slot with the higher number (if it isn't already).  You do have to pull the distributor to do this.

The other option is to change the springs.  The springs determine how fast the advance comes in.  Usually you can just go to the lightest springs in the spring kit.  The idea is to get all the advance in as quick as you can.  All mine is in by 3,000RPM and I run 38 degrees total advance (12 initial and 26 mechanical).  That setup works well for a stockish 289.  The more high performance the engine is the less lead it should need.  A performance engine is going to be maxed around 32 degrees.  The less efficient the chambers are, the lower the compression, etc. the more lead you want. 

 

3/12/2021 10:18 PM  #11


Re: Distrubitor curves

OK so if there is 26 degs in the mechanical side then that is what I got because when I went to 12 I got 35 at 2000. Car runs great now and tomorrow after I install the rockers on the driver side i could be done and just have to drive it. we will see


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3/13/2021 6:54 AM  #12


Re: Distrubitor curves

If your compression is below 9:1 and the cam isn't lumpy I wouldn't be afraid to add more timing and see if performance improves.  I've found low performance engines sometime need as much as 42 degrees to really wake up. I run 38 on my 289, but plan to try more if I ever get to the track and they aren't closed (been trying to go with my boy for three years now and the two years before last they were closed when we went despite saying they were open on their website and voicemail).   I've always track tuned my vehicles.  You can only tell so much by the butt dyno.  Once I get it to hook consistently I can mess with timing and mixture and see if I can pick up some power.  A 0.10 reduction in ET is equivalent to 10HP. 

 

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