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MS wrote:
Anything other than a Holley or Autolite just has no place on a Ford.
BINGO!
Dead nuts on.
Could not agree more.
Holley's first carb was for Ford.
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I’d make an exception, the Summit Street and Strip 4100 clone,
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Didn't say I couldn't tune a Holley; said I don't want to. But yeah, picking a carb based on how it looks is a lot like picking a woman based on how she looks. I'd much rather be married to my wife than a model that's a #$%^.
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For me it’s always been, “if it looks right . . . It is right”
Picture a DUI and a Carter on a 289 or a 350 in a deuce coupe . . . puke city!
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Rudi wrote:
For me it’s always been, “if it looks right . . . It is right”
Picture a DUI and a Carter on a 289 or a 350 in a deuce coupe . . . puke city!
A Deuce should have a flathead with Edelbrock or Ardun heads and either what looks like Enderle 8 stack injection or 3 Strombergs. Probably with a mag too. Though, you can't really hide the carb on a Deuce with an air cleaner because the sides of the engine compartment are removable.
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MS wrote:
I have never had what I would describe as a problem with any Holley carb. You guys just aren’t up to task, apparently.
Anything other than a Holley or Autolite just has no place on a Ford.
Kind of like a beautiful woman. Might be more of a challenge, but worth the effort.
Well MS, I guess I will have to be grouped with the rebellious "non-standard" group, but I will strive to carry on with my lowly Edelbrock, hoping some day to gain the knowledge and experience required to tune the hallowed Holley carburetor.....
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"no place on a ford"....but all that blingee polished alum front dress brackets are just fine....
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C’mon Josh, blingy is nondenominational 🧐
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I think the correct term is "universally wrong". I'm now remembering something about yellow spark plug wires...
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TKOPerformance wrote:
Rudi wrote:
For me it’s always been, “if it looks right . . . It is right”
Picture a DUI and a Carter on a 289 or a 350 in a deuce coupe . . . puke city!A Deuce should have a flathead with Edelbrock or Ardun heads and either what looks like Enderle 8 stack injection or 3 Strombergs. Probably with a mag too. Though, you can't really hide the carb on a Deuce with an air cleaner because the sides of the engine compartment are removable.
If I ever get a 32, it will get an early hemi with 3x2 on it.
Until then, the only Edelbrock I have is on my 56 F100. It has not been fired yet and will likely get Holley on it before it moves.
Looks matter alot to me when it comes to having the right parts.
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Ron68 wrote:
MS wrote:
I have never had what I would describe as a problem with any Holley carb. You guys just aren’t up to task, apparently.
Anything other than a Holley or Autolite just has no place on a Ford.
Kind of like a beautiful woman. Might be more of a challenge, but worth the effort.Well MS, I guess I will have to be grouped with the rebellious "non-standard" group, but I will strive to carry on with my lowly Edelbrock, hoping some day to gain the knowledge and experience required to tune the hallowed Holley carburetor.....
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Thank you LT. Saved me from making an axx of myself....again.
In the 11 years I've been allowed to participate in this fine group I've seen a lot of different cars done a lot of different ways. Some I thought were very nice and well done, some I liked but saw work or features I didn't particularly care for. But, all of them had traveled many miles to get to were I saw them and would, presumably, make the many miles to get home.
I can honestly say that while I didn't always agree with the equipment used or the approach taken, I never felt that it didn't "belong". I feel that a restored car should be, well, restored...to as close to the way it left the factory as possible. Butt (TS&T) a modified car is a whole 'nuther animal. Once a guy deviates from the factory color then all bets are off. It's a modified car and he can...and should...do to that car what he feels will best make that car the vehicle he wants. Show car, racer, driver. Decide what you want and make it happen. I'm one of those guys that modifies stuff just 'cause I can. Doesn't have to make it faster, stronger, prettier...just different. You don't like it? Don't look! Kind of like the TV.
Since joining this group I've seen beautiful cars that couldn't stand to be much above sea level. I've seen decent cars that required four fuel filter changes to go 600 miles. I've seen cars that most people would wonder how in the hell it could go down the highway but after driving it I would have gladly swapped chassis with the guy...the car drives so sweet. And, I've driven beautifully executed cars with enough power to put you back in the chair and keep you there but shook like a dog passing peach pits at any speed over 70. Go figure.
And none of these put me off due to any particular equipment. Not my car. Not my choice.
I feel the same way about LOW RIDERS. Not my cup of tea but, damn, some of those guys do some amazing work. Some...not so much. But they are in the hobby like us, spending their bux and supporting the cause.
But personally, I can't understand why anyone would want a dripping bucket setting on top of the engine in the first place but the fact that some do doesn't really put me off...too much.
Bob
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Maybe Rudi could Tap it for you ? ship it to him.
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50vert wrote:
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Way to go Barry. A work of art in the living room ……. right where it should be.
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Nos681 wrote:
Ron68 wrote:
MS wrote:
I have never had what I would describe as a problem with any Holley carb. You guys just aren’t up to task, apparently.
Anything other than a Holley or Autolite just has no place on a Ford.
Kind of like a beautiful woman. Might be more of a challenge, but worth the effort.Well MS, I guess I will have to be grouped with the rebellious "non-standard" group, but I will strive to carry on with my lowly Edelbrock, hoping some day to gain the knowledge and experience required to tune the hallowed Holley carburetor.....
Dan, where do you find these things??
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Bullet Bob wrote:
Thank you LT. Saved me from making an axx of myself....again.
In the 11 years I've been allowed to participate in this fine group I've seen a lot of different cars done a lot of different ways. Some I thought were very nice and well done, some I liked but saw work or features I didn't particularly care for. But, all of them had traveled many miles to get to were I saw them and would, presumably, make the many miles to get home.
I can honestly say that while I didn't always agree with the equipment used or the approach taken, I never felt that it didn't "belong". I feel that a restored car should be, well, restored...to as close to the way it left the factory as possible. Butt (TS&T) a modified car is a whole 'nuther animal. Once a guy deviates from the factory color then all bets are off. It's a modified car and he can...and should...do to that car what he feels will best make that car the vehicle he wants. Show car, racer, driver. Decide what you want and make it happen. I'm one of those guys that modifies stuff just 'cause I can. Doesn't have to make it faster, stronger, prettier...just different. You don't like it? Don't look! Kind of like the TV.
Since joining this group I've seen beautiful cars that couldn't stand to be much above sea level. I've seen decent cars that required four fuel filter changes to go 600 miles. I've seen cars that most people would wonder how in the hell it could go down the highway but after driving it I would have gladly swapped chassis with the guy...the car drives so sweet. And, I've driven beautifully executed cars with enough power to put you back in the chair and keep you there but shook like a dog passing peach pits at any speed over 70. Go figure.
And none of these put me off due to any particular equipment. Not my car. Not my choice.
I feel the same way about LOW RIDERS. Not my cup of tea but, damn, some of those guys do some amazing work. Some...not so much. But they are in the hobby like us, spending their bux and supporting the cause.
But personally, I can't understand why anyone would want a dripping bucket setting on top of the engine in the first place but the fact that some do doesn't really put me off...too much.
Bob
BB - 100% agree. To each his own.
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Hey, I don’t care what you put on YOUR car. I am only talking about what I want for my car.
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I did this to my street avenger 10 years ago. I will see if I dig up pics tomorrow.
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Well, I really got sucked into the trap.
I tried to make an informative post showing how Ford did the late 60’s, early 70’s fuel lines on cars equipped with Holley carbs. I did this to inform some of the youngsters on here that had asked about Holley fuel lines. It occurred to me that some of them were not born when those cars were built, and the cars so equipped were so rare that those guys probably have never even laid eyes on, or paid any attention to, the carburetors they had, much less the routing. I thought Ford had a really good setup, so I showed how to duplicate it.
I never made mention that a Holley was better than anything in my original post. I am just building up a carb I bought on ebay to the configuration I like. Heck, the thing might never run, but I will try it.
Ok, now, I am as guilty, or more so, than anyone about good natured ribbing concerning carbs or efi or yellow wires or electric fans.
But, this is getting too personal, from pretty women to carb brands, to leaking pots, everything but electric cars. It seems to be a common theme on message boards and neighborhood boards, facebook, whatever. And I am guilty, too. Everyone wants to find fault. I just wanted to inform as to how Ford ran Holley fuel lines.
I think I will do my best in the future to stay on topic and show proper appreciation for those who take the time to participate on the forum. Show me your best routing on those yellow plug wires. I will find something good to say about it.
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Just a little good natured push back, Steve. I just felt that a statement that using equipment that was never offered, "has no place" or that those who disagree, "are not up to the task", have no place on a forum the sole purpose of which is to encourage modification and personalization of these cars. If I'm too touchy, I apologize and I'll buy you a beer when next we meet. Friend?
Just my opinion...and I'm sure I'm welcome to it.
BB1
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I am as guilty as everybody else getting sucked in. I just finally realized it probably have not happened like that.
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The Holley carb is held as “hallowed” by many.
That’s what the image is pertaining to after reading that statement.
I started with a Holley and eventually changed to Edelbrock.
Lack of knowledge, understanding, and finding people who have the knowledge to share.
I have learned a lot about Holley carbs in the past couple of years.
Just after I converted to factory EFI.
A future project will have a Holley carb on it.
The magic is in the tuning.
I’m looking forward to it too.
I am still a novice at carb tuning.
There are lots of “How to’s” on this forum that are valuable.
Just have to search for them and actually read them.
If all of our cars were the same, we would be boring.
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MS wrote:
Well, I really got sucked into the trap.
I tried to make an informative post showing how Ford did the late 60’s, early 70’s fuel lines on cars equipped with Holley carbs. I did this to inform some of the youngsters on here that had asked about Holley fuel lines. It occurred to me that some of them were not born when those cars were built, and the cars so equipped were so rare that those guys probably have never even laid eyes on, or paid any attention to, the carburetors they had, much less the routing. I thought Ford had a really good setup, so I showed how to duplicate it.
I never made mention that a Holley was better than anything in my original post. I am just building up a carb I bought on ebay to the configuration I like. Heck, the thing might never run, but I will try it.
Ok, now, I am as guilty, or more so, than anyone about good natured ribbing concerning carbs or efi or yellow wires or electric fans.
But, this is getting too personal, from pretty women to carb brands, to leaking pots, everything but electric cars. It seems to be a common theme on message boards and neighborhood boards, facebook, whatever. And I am guilty, too. Everyone wants to find fault. I just wanted to inform as to how Ford ran Holley fuel lines.
I think I will do my best in the future to stay on topic and show proper appreciation for those who take the time to participate on the forum. Show me your best routing on those yellow plug wires. I will find something good to say about it.
Okay, will the person who poked the bear please raise his hand? (Raises hand really high....) The horse is now dead, so we can stop kicking it. Peace out. It's all good.
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In everyone's defense, this must be the most "friendly" forum fight of all time. Another reason this place is epic!
Now, I have been looking for pictures I previously took of my Street Avenger carb, and I realize I have no current electronics that can even read an SD card. I started thinking datasets to floppy disks, to the small hard floppy disk, to CD ROM to SD cards etc.... Yet here y'all are talking about Carbueretors!
What a wonderful world we live in.
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