If it were me... I wouldn't get involved in this venture. Pleasing people with workmanship and expectations on cars is a real tough business and with these cars, there are way too many variables.
From what I am seeing, there is massive potential for you to lose real big on this.
Perhaps this is more of a job for a shop with insurance, contracts, legal representation and with a team that has lots of experience?

Last edited by Toploader (12/06/2022 7:08 PM)

If he does it as time and material I don't see how he looses.  Worst case the guy gets sick of spending money and he settles up and gives him the cars back.  He gets paid as he goes along.  I'm going to tell you that no shop is going to give you hard prices on a project like this. 

Now, as for insurance, etc.  He definitely needs that.  A contract?  Absolutely.  I'd also advise documenting everything with email.  A buddy of mine did a car for a guy years back and the guy wanted more power from the existing engine.  While doing the cam swap my buddy noticed the cam bearings were down to the copper.  He told the guy he needed to rebuild the engine, but the guy refused.  He replaced the cam bearings in the car, put it back together, and within a month the guy grenaded the engine.  He kept trying to get my buddy to fix it for free, but my buddy had the emails clearly stating he had advised rebuilding the engine and the guy had refused.  My buddy ended up getting paid to build a stroker Cleveland for it.  Lacking that documentation its he said/she said.  Always document everything. 
 

6sally6 wrote:

If it was 6sal6.......I would run !! IMHO
6s6

 
They look lil rough to ya?

True74yamaha wrote:

Thank you everyone for your helpful responses. Ill be doing most all the work at the owners shop. My buddy owns a body shop so thats where we plan on having the cars painted. Im going to be performing all the disassembly metal work interior electrical body work and detail work on all the cars. The owner mentioned hed like to help on it where ever he can. Should be lots of fun. The owner is a really nice guy. Did yall see the 289 k code engine? It shot a connecting rod and lived to tell the tale.

 
SHOP RATES
$50:00 an hour
$75:00 if you watch
$100:00 if you help

BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:

Rudi wrote:

True74yamaha wrote:

Thank you everyone for your helpful responses. Ill be doing most all the work at the owners shop. My buddy owns a body shop so thats where we plan on having the cars painted. Im going to be performing all the disassembly metal work interior electrical body work and detail work on all the cars. The owner mentioned hed like to help on it where ever he can. Should be lots of fun. The owner is a really nice guy. Did yall see the 289 k code engine? It shot a connecting rod and lived to tell the tale.

 
SHOP RATES
$50:00 an hour
$75:00 if you watch
$100:00 if you help

my engine builder had this sign on the wall when I worked for him in High School lol.
 

I have that sign in my garage, and bought one for my neighbor,s shop too  I saw another one that raises the price if the customer looked at it and raises it further if they tried to fix it. 
 

BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:

Rudi wrote:

True74yamaha wrote:

Thank you everyone for your helpful responses. Ill be doing most all the work at the owners shop. My buddy owns a body shop so thats where we plan on having the cars painted. Im going to be performing all the disassembly metal work interior electrical body work and detail work on all the cars. The owner mentioned hed like to help on it where ever he can. Should be lots of fun. The owner is a really nice guy. Did yall see the 289 k code engine? It shot a connecting rod and lived to tell the tale.

 
SHOP RATES
$50:00 an hour
$75:00 if you watch
$100:00 if you help

my engine builder had this sign on the wall when I worked for him in High School lol.
 

 
Thats funny must be an autoshop teacher thing my Teacher had that same sign in the shop as well. Lol

I'm going against the enthusiasm here in saying that K code convertible needs new complete framerails.  And once you get inside it no telling what else.   That car needs to be done by some uber professionals because of that K.    That car needs to be done by a professional shop.   

I'd say go for it with any other letter designation though.    Just my opinion.   Not trying to be mean nor dissuade you, but that is a huge undertaking on an extremely valuable car.

Edit:  just so you know, if that is a true K convertible, its the rarest piece there.  It is estimated that 181 were built.  There was no way to know the true number because of Fords record keeping, but they know how enough to make darn good guesses.   That particular one, though, lots of signs its been through the ringer, and may be some kind of frankenstein.   I could start pointing it out, but I'm not going to ruin the fun.  Best figure out what you really got there.

Last edited by Greg B (12/08/2022 11:55 PM)

True74yamaha wrote:

TKOPerformance wrote:

HiPo car looks decent.  That Boss is going to be a lot of work.  That should be a $100k restoration if its a dime.  Concourse means no no factory seams in the sheetmetal.  Those areas where someone bead welded patches in will have to be ground out and done to factory spec.  It looks like someone got into it thinking they would fix this and that and it unraveled, as classic cars tend to do.  That needs a complete rotisserie restoration.  Lots of time, lots of money, and lots of parts.

You know when you mentioned the seam on the BOSS you were referring to the seam on the trunk pan to where it meets to framerail correct?

Yes.  It looks like there was a patch piece added in there and seam welded in.  Admittedly, I don;t know everything about the BOSS mustangs, but that definitely doesn't look factory to me.  Stuff like that won't fly in a concourse restoration. 
 

I wasnt for sure about that seam that was welded either when first looking at it. So I did a little research. This picture is from a Gold Concourse Winner


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