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1/03/2024 8:53 AM  #1


Are Heim joints actually banned?

While looking into heim joints for an unrelated reason, I came across this article: https://automotivesimple.com/why-are-heim-joints-illegal/  It claims that heim joints have been banned.  Anyone heard of this?
 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

1/03/2024 10:32 AM  #2


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

Was that article written by a ten year old? Wait, that gives ten years olds a bad name.  I don't know, maybe cite sources for rod ends being all the things you claim they are, unsafe, weak, and illegal.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

1/03/2024 10:41 AM  #3


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

I knew it! Them damn Heim joints should have been banned centuries ago.


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

1/03/2024 11:40 AM  #4


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

When you look up clickbait in the dictionary that guy's picture is in the definition

 

1/03/2024 12:39 PM  #5


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

A properly sized on constructed heim joint is every bit as safe and strong as a bushing.  They aren't used by OEMs due to NVH issues.  Now, from what I've read there are some States, and some applications in those States, where heim joints may fail you on an inspection.  There is no Federal regulation I can find which states they are illegal.  They are included with lift kits which are street legal all the time. 

 

1/03/2024 4:01 PM  #6


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

Raymond_B wrote:

When you look up clickbait in the dictionary that guy's picture is in the definition

 
Ya, I'm thinking it's click bate too. There should've been a red flag that I saw.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

1/03/2024 7:33 PM  #7


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

When that article popped up as part of my search results, I only clicked on it because the website name appeared legitimate being AutomotiveSimple.com. But if no one has heard of this before, I guess I got suckered into a click bait.  Sorry.


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
     Thread Starter
 

1/04/2024 8:47 AM  #8


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

More Info - many "Street Rods" use Heim joints; the National Street Rod Association's yearly safety inspection recommendations include an inspection of any Heim joint for cracks, etc.  There is no mention of Heim joints being banned. 


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

1/04/2024 8:58 AM  #9


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

The real question:
Would the fact they are banned keep anyone from using them?


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

1/04/2024 9:32 AM  #10


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

MS wrote:

The real question:
Would the fact they are banned keep anyone from using them?

assuming they are illegal, (which I doubt) if you use them and you get in an accident because one failed an insurance company could use that as an excuse not to pay out.  They could say you chose to install that part and so you are responsible.

The entire thing seams fake.  If they were banned I think Summit would mention that in their thousands of heim joint product pages.

If there is anything I have proven over the last 20 years is anyone can have a web site and put on it what they like 😁
 


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1/04/2024 1:11 PM  #11


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

Insurance payout would be based on the type of policy you have.  If you have a bare bones policy to try and keep costs down, then they will do whatever they can to avoid paying anything.  However, comprehensive I'm told covers everything, even your own stupidity, so I think they would pay in that case. 

I also think that to avoid being sued any company selling a suspension component with heim joints would include a disclaimer that its not intended for use on public roads, racing or off-road use only, etc.
 

 

1/09/2024 4:15 PM  #12


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

I always look for and ask about the stupid clause in all insurance policies. You never know when stupid will show up!!
As for Heims, if applied properly and using the correct one, never had one fail. even the ones I bent in battle!!!

 

1/10/2024 12:04 AM  #13


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

I don't know about the use of Heim joints on automobiles, but they are used on hundreds of places on aircraft flight control rods, pushrods, and support rods. They must be okay, but then rods on aircraft aren't exposed to high energy shock loads either.


68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
 

1/10/2024 11:48 PM  #14


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

If its on the internet isint true???


Slammed Big Blue, ran over the varmints that messed with the Stang. Now all is good in the NW
 

1/11/2024 6:50 AM  #15


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

You have to post it at least three times and post it in all caps, then its true.  At least that's what all the political geniuses in the world think...

 

2/14/2024 1:12 PM  #16


Re: Are Heim joints actually banned?

Looks like post were updated, now the information matches the logic. It's not illegal, but yeah restricted in some areas due to safety concerns.  

 

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