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    11/17/2024 8:36 PM  #1

    Raymond_B
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    Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    I told a buddy of mine that unlike Tyson this old man got it done this weekend Got the motor in my red Lightning solo, this one is pretty much a race truck. My black one will be getting a bit tamer motor, hope to get one of them to a Bash some day. Yes, it's still a small block Ford



     

     

    11/17/2024 10:18 PM  #2

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    That looks like fun

     

    11/17/2024 10:33 PM  #3

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Do you have pictures of the exhaust manifolds?

    Would like some more details please.

    Looks like fun.

     

    11/17/2024 10:40 PM  #4

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Thanks!

    They are log style headers from Stainless Headers, I originally bought them for my other truck that had fenderwells and stock suspension, but I am swapping that motor in this more race oriented project.

    https://www.stainlessheaders.com/i-30499007-small-block-ford-289-302-351w-turbo-header.html?ref=category:1390478

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    11/18/2024 8:08 AM  #5

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    That is a lot of work, looks good, continue to post ics as you move forward.

    65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
     

    2/05/2025 8:02 PM  #6

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Isn't it always 1 step forward 2 steps back? Got underneath the truck to check the converter clearance and sure enough I need spacers, I knew I would, but what I did not anticipate was that my high $$$ Stef's oil pan and the way Ford makes the transmission bellhousing fully round is that there's no way to put those spacers in between the converter and flexplate. Tried through the starter hole, but no joy. So the trans is getting slid back while I have some spacers made. Meanwhile I've been cleaning out all the old wiring and preparing for the Haltech R5 and associated goodies.

    Out with the old wiring:


    Getting cleaner:


    Got rid of the dash innards, saves weight, gives me more room, and I will cuss this decision when it's 110 out



    Took the old wiring out and then put more back in...


    More to come, don't want to make the post too long. Also will have a bunch of Autometer 2 5/8 and 2" gauges for sale.
     

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    2/05/2025 8:17 PM  #7

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Here's a good view of how the pan hangs so low I cannot get to the converter bolts.

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    2/06/2025 7:13 AM  #8

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Well, at least you have plenty of room to work in that interior.  Unlike a Mustang. 

    65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
     

    2/06/2025 8:03 AM  #9

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    On the 6.0 Diesel the converter bolts are accessed through a tiny hole in the rear block plate, and there isn't enough room between the oil pan and block plate for a deep socket, and a shallow socket is too short.  I had to make a freaking socket to get the nuts off.  6 bolts on a Diesel too.  I feel your pain. 

     

    2/06/2025 5:02 PM  #10

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Raymond_B wrote:

    I





    Got rid of the dash innards, saves weight, gives me more room, and I will cuss this decision when it's 110 out

    That 'thang' still got winderz...right ?!

    6sally6


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    2/06/2025 5:03 PM  #11

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    I am actually going to keep the power winderz

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    2/06/2025 5:08 PM  #12

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    I'm like'n those stainless headers !!
    Nice looking welds too.
    6s6

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    2/07/2025 6:24 AM  #13

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Good work.  It must be great to have all that room so you can have a tall engine without worrying about cutting up your hood.

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    2/07/2025 8:12 AM  #14

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    John Ha wrote:

    Good work.  It must be great to have all that room so you can have a tall engine without worrying about cutting up your hood.

    Thank you, yeah sometimes I forget how much room I have compared to a Mustang!
     

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    2/07/2025 8:19 PM  #15

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    A couple of years ago I bought a 3D printer, I had always wanted one because I love designing stuff, but I never thought it would be one of my most useful tools in the garage. I've slowly taught myself how to use SolidWorks (talk about a learning curve) and have gotten pretty good at 2D stuff. Designed a mount for the Haltech Nexus R5 for the truck. Being able to mock it up in the software, then print it out on the printer before spending money to have it made is priceless. Most engineering and manufacturing companies have big $$$ scanners and printer to do rapid prototyping, so cool.

    Anyway, once I was happy with the parts I had SendCutSend make them out of 5052 0.80" aluminum. I've used them a bunch and it is a great and very affordable service.

    Here it is in SolidWorks all fitted up.



    Used the 3D printed parts to test the mounting.



    Actual parts from SendCutSend.



    Assembled.



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    2/07/2025 8:23 PM  #16

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Outstanding fab work Raymond.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    2/07/2025 8:25 PM  #17

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    rpm wrote:

    Outstanding fab work Raymond.

    Thank you! 

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    2/08/2025 6:04 AM  #18

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    Nice work, congratulations on learning the 3D printer. 

    65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
     

    2/08/2025 9:15 AM  #19

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    That is some work to be proud of.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    2/08/2025 6:11 PM  #20

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    "Did Dufree teach you how to run that thang?!"
    Nice work BTW
    6sally6

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    2/09/2025 7:39 AM  #21

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Very nice!

     

    2/09/2025 8:35 AM  #22

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    Re: Not a Mustang, but still a Ford

    Raymond B.  you have a PM.

    "you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
     

     

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