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I have purchased a later model master cylinder and a 7" dual diaphragm booster from Mustang Steve and I have some questions before the parts arrive. I want to know how to bench bleed the plastic single bowl master cylinder, not sure whether it is a Ford part or not. Two concerns: Where can I get the plastic bleed fittings that I need for this master cylinder? It has metric fittings, not sure of the size and one (larger front) and one smaller (rear) and though I have plastic bench bleeder fittings, they do not fit this master cylinder. A second concern is: The master cylinder did not come with a part (bullet shaped piece that fits in the master cylinder to press against the push rod in the booster.) Maybe it doesn't need this but all of the metal master cylinders I have seen have this part. Maybe it will come with the 7" booster but I didn't see any thing that specified that on the Mustang Steve website. All of this is going into a 1968 Mustang convertible restomod with a BluePrint 347, Holley Sniper 1 with 15 inches of vacuum at the port, Monster AOD Trans, 4-wheel disc brakes (MP Brakes kit on the front and Fox body brakes on the rear.) The booster from MustangSteve is a 7" dual diaphragm model and the master cylinder, also from Mustang Steve, is a later model Fox body part I think. It is plastic and aluminum and has metric thread ports.
Last edited by dialh2222 (7/02/2026 12:57 PM)
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You can bench bleed a master cylinder one of two ways. On older iron master cylinders where the whole top comes off I would route hoses from the ports to the reservoir and just keep the ends submerged (add fluid as needed) as I moved the piston until there are no more air bubbles.
On the newer style masters where they just have a small top I bench bleed them like a wheel cylinder or caliper. A jar with some clean fluid and a line running from the ports into the jar. Move the piston until air bubbles stop, and don't let the reservoir get too low. If nothing I have fits the ports I just buy some adapters and cobble something together. It doesn't have to hold 2,000psi; it just can't leak. At this point from years of doing this I have a bunch of adapters in a drawer. You can just buy short length of metal brake hose, but it may not come with the correct size fittings to thread into the master cylinder. You can buy the right size tube nuts for this, but probably only online.
No idea on the booster. IIWY I'd convert to hydroboost. I've not heard good things about those 7" boosters.
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What "not good things" have you heard about the 7" boosters. I would like to know what I am setting myself up for. By the way the hydroboost systems are in the $1000+ range and out of my reach currently.
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Could you share a picture of the parts?
I am not familiar with any of the mentioned parts on the MustangSteve site.
Thanks
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Disregard that. Now that I see it that's not the type of booster I was thinking about.
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Yes, That is the one I have purchased. Glad to hear that so far there are no obvious problems with this style booster.
Thanks for your reply to my problem.
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No bench bleeding here. This was my experience with installing the parts.
That looks like the same booster I put in my 67. The master was what Mustang Steve recommended, seem like Explorer variety with those same staggered metric fittings sizes. My booster went in first, I got around to doing the master some time later. Between the studs from the booster and the length of the master cylinder, the master would hit the shock tower before it could be positioned to slide onto the booster stubs. I had to file the mounting pad side of the master cylinder bolt holes to provide the extra clearance to get the master into place. With it in place, you will never know that I did it. For lines, I went to the local pick a part and got lines from an Explorer master cylinder to the next junction block down stream. This gave me a factory fitting at the master that I am no good at making. I straightened and rebent to meet my needs then made the right crimp to make up the the factory type brake fittings. Bleeding consisted of filling the master and going into the house. Gravity took over. Found a puddle the next morning from a loose connection. They parts have worked flawlessly for the last 20k miles.
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I think everyone has the problem installing the M/C that John describes. I find that if you loosen all the bolts holding the booster on, then tilt the front of the booster towards the engine, the M/C goes on easily.
To save yourself from having to contort yourself under the dash an extra coupl'a times, install the M/C before tightening the booster.
Check the booster to M/C rod clearace before installing into the car.
Last edited by 50vert (7/03/2026 6:15 PM)
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This is all good information that I will be sure to use when I get the parts I have ordered and get around to putting them on. Thanks for your replies and technical information. They are much appreciated.
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Does anyone know what thread size (metrics) the bore holes are in the Mustang Steve single bowl, plastic master cylinder? I'm having a little trouble finding these. It may be an Explorer part instead of a Fox body part that I first thought.
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It looks like it includes the correct tube nuts. Check with them whether they need a bubble flare, or inverted flare. They each use a different nut. Also ask if they still preset the pushrod clearance. I know Steve used to.
Last edited by 50vert (7/03/2026 9:02 PM)
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Yes it appears that Steve still presets the pushrod clearance in the booster but I still can't get the MC to fit on the booster in the car. Still trying, but looking for a compact MC preferably not Wilwood due to the cost.
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What bore size do you need?
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I think a 1" bore would be appropriate.
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With the booster installed how long can the master cylinder be?
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It can't be any longer than 6.75 inches from the flange at the booster to the longest point on the front of the master cylinder. The one that keeps coming up when I search for it is the Wilwood one that ranges from $395 to $450 and I just can't see that much for a master cylinder. That is a kit price that includes connection lines to the distribution valve and the manual residual valve (which I already have) and a bracket to mount the valve. The Corvette style also comes up but I really don't want one of those because of sheer size,very wide also. I have one of those on my '34 Ford Street Rod and it is huge. Doesn't work that well either. So I am still looking.
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As I mentioned earlier, tilt the front of the booster towards the engine, the M/C will go on a lot easier.
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Unfortunately the Wilwood was designed because compact master cylinders are rare. I sent an email to the guy I bought my hydroboost setup from. I seem to recall there was a GM master with a 1" bore that was compact. I'll post back when I hear back from him.
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The 2001 Mustang v6 master is well over 7”, did not get an exact measurement since 6-3/4” is the limit.
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Just for a reference, I have used two MCs on my 65; both are over 7” long.
A 94/95 Cobra SVT w/15/16" bore (used w/manual 4-wheel discs)
A 95-97 Explorer, 1-1/16" Bore (used w/hydroboost power 4-wheel discs)
I have the MII front suspension, so no issue w/shock towers
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Thanks for the info but those are both too long to fit in my location. They are close but they both fit at a slight angle and will be against the shock tower when I bolt them down. I have tried to angle the master to get it on the booster and It still is tight against the shock tower and at a slight angle.
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Have you ever considered using manual brakes? Less parts, pretty simple system.
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rpm wrote:
Have you ever considered using manual brakes? Less parts, pretty simple system.
I can say that when I had manual disc brakes using the 94/95 Cobra SVT MC, pedal pressure was a little high but not unmanageable. (As I’m getting older, I wanted to go to power brakes and adapt a hydroboost system in case my legs started to give out!)
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Okay, here's the master cylinder to try: GM 390572. This is a 1" bore, and quite compact.
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