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3/09/2014 11:52 AM  #1


Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Looking for something better than the $20 plastc autozone special, but don't want to spend$100 either. I managed to hide my windshield washer jug out of a late mustang inside the feder area...probly won't have room to hide the coolant jug, so want something decent with a window to keep an eye on coolant level when checking oil and such.
Thanks


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3/09/2014 12:01 PM  #2


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

I am the parts manager at an Acura dealer.I bought a jar and bracket for a 2013 RDX. Not expensive and looks good. I mounted it on the left frame rail behind the headlight.
I will try to post a pic later .


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3/09/2014 2:10 PM  #3


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

I bought a couple cheap SS overflow tanks off ebay and mounted them both on drivers fenderwell.  One is radiator overflow and other is windsheild washer fluid
This is not the best pic of the tanks but you get the idea

 

3/09/2014 2:33 PM  #4


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

I like that Terry!  Looks good!

I have a summit over flow tank.  Looks OK.. went with white.  Works well enough

 

3/09/2014 2:59 PM  #5


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Depends on if you want overflow or if you want recovery/recirculating.  Summit offers plastic for $16, with a sight gauge for a little more, stainless for $56 and aluminum for $59.  According to their specs, these are overflow only and not for recovery.  For recovery, there are several options but Mr. Gasket has one at $66 that looks pretty good. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-9135/overview/  .  For a recovery system, you need to have the correct radiator filler neck and cap to allow the sytem to suck back the overflow when it cools which is how most modern systems operate.  I think there were roughly 142 tanks offered on the Summit site for coolant overflow/recovery so there are a lot of options.

 

3/09/2014 3:15 PM  #6


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

looking for recovery/recirculating type. How do I know if the radiator I have will do this. I still need to buy a radiator cap too...what am i looking for here? Thanks


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3/09/2014 5:51 PM  #7


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Your radiator is not the deciding factor.  It is the radiator cap.  Any cap that has the double seal will do the job.  The bottom cap seal contacts the sealing surface and the bottom of the cap neck.  The top cap seal mates with the upper rim of the cap neck.  Your overflow port is on the cap neck between these two seals.  When radiator pressure unseats the bottom cap seal, it lets cooland exit into your container.  The top seal keeps any coolant from exiting to atmosphere.  Conversely, the top cap seal holds the vacuum when everything cools down while the bottom seal lifts allowing coolant to be sucked back into the radiator.

I have a '65 289 that was always blowing coolant at the end of parades. I got a 3 x 10" stainless tube off of ebay.  I made an aluminum bracket so I could mount the tube, on the left side of the radiator using the existing shroud bolt holes.  I bent the bracket so that the cylinder fit nicely between the side of the radiator and the voltage regulator.  

The tube I got was sufficient to do the job but except for the fact that I have factory AC, I would have gotten a taller tube.  I had to stay under my condesor line that goes back out thru the radiator core support, right above where I wanted to mount my tube.






 

 

3/09/2014 6:22 PM  #8


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

here is a better picture of the tanks and my overflow cap. and a good shot of the paint peeling off my power steering pump!!  that just started this winter!!

Last edited by terry (3/09/2014 6:23 PM)

 

3/09/2014 6:39 PM  #9


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Gotta say.........."those are some nice jugs"!
I did a home-made deal also. I got and Alum. drinking water bottle(the kind joggers/walkers and health-nuts use)...they come in colors too. Mine is just the spun Alum. Modified the top and drilled two holes ..installed one long tube and one short tube. Used some scrap steel braid hose to route from the small tube  to under the car.  Make a bracket from some Alum. tubing I beat flat with a hammer and formed into a ring that let the bottole sit up right and mounted bracket to radiator support.
Works OK......better than steam spewing out overflow pipe!
6sal6
Guess I need to get the special cap.......no wonder mine wasn't doing right!!


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3/09/2014 6:42 PM  #10


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Mine didnt come from Autozone,  I went in there to get one and I just as well went to McDonalds and asked for a radiator cap!  I bought mine from a local speed shop!!

 

3/10/2014 7:41 AM  #11


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

6sally6 wrote:

Gotta say.........."those are some nice jugs"!
I did a home-made deal also. I got and Alum. drinking water bottle(the kind joggers/walkers and health-nuts use)...they come in colors too. Mine is just the spun Alum. Modified the top and drilled two holes ..installed one long tube and one short tube. Used some scrap steel braid hose to route from the small tube  to under the car.  Make a bracket from some Alum. tubing I beat flat with a hammer and formed into a ring that let the bottole sit up right and mounted bracket to radiator support.
Works OK......better than steam spewing out overflow pipe!
6sal6
Guess I need to get the special cap.......no wonder mine wasn't doing right!!

I Like the way you think! Thanks for the tank ideas and the cap explanation on how stuff works Boomyal.This is the best Ford Forum out there. Was gonna say Best "Forum", but there are some that have more entertaining pics than others


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3/10/2014 12:00 PM  #12


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

It seems a lifetime ago, I had my first Mustang - a 1965 Honey Gold T code with Pony Interior.  I made an overflow/recovery can out of a 1qt. Marvel Mystery oil can.  I measured the OD of the overflow hose, and drilled a hole through the screw on cap and (cardboard) gasket just that size.  I mounted the can with ell shaped brackets I made and brazed to the can.  Cut the bottom of the hose at a 45 degree angle, and pushed it to the bottom of the can.  I punched a vent hole in the top of the can with an awl.  Somewhere along the line, I painted the can with satin black paint, and it was almost not noticible.  I don't remember if I changed the cap or not - my memory ain't what it usta be.  That recovery can was still working fine when I sold the car in the mid 70s.
As with Sal and the drinking bottle, and Daze with the Doggie Dish speaker enclosures, Think outside the box!
Enjoy
 

 

3/10/2014 2:15 PM  #13


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?




my overflow is from a later model i think 69 mustang.. dirty from the inside cause my cooling system used to be dirty. I have cleaned it all. just remanents on the plastic body.. but a 20 dollar thing with self tap screws on the body and a hose. 


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3/11/2014 5:16 PM  #14


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

I can honestly say I have never understood the need for an overflow tank on a SBF.  I have never had one, I live where it is routinely over 100 degrees for many months in a row, and my radiator does not lose any water.
But, if you have to have one, I like 6sally6's best.  I think it was a Colt 45 beer can.

Seriously, if any of you want one of those tubular billet aluminum jobs, gather up enough of you to make a group buy and I can get them for you for so cheap it will make your head spin.  The markup on those things is unbelievable.  Need ten people wanting the same thing all at once to do it.  I will even forego ANY PROFIT at all since I really believe they are a waste of time.


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3/11/2014 7:25 PM  #15


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

I never could figure out why my car spit out antifreeze after I drove it.  I have not had overheating issues since changing to the aluminum radiator but it would still spit out a bit of fluid after running it!  therefore i put in the overflow.  IT was better than it shooting all over the under side of the car if it decided to.

Last edited by terry (3/11/2014 7:26 PM)

 

3/11/2014 7:28 PM  #16


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

MustangSteve wrote:

I can honestly say I have never understood the need for an overflow tank on a SBF.  I have never had one, I live where it is routinely over 100 degrees for many months in a row, and my radiator does not lose any water.
But, if you have to have one, I like 6sally6's best.  I think it was a Colt 45 beer can.

Seriously, if any of you want one of those tubular billet aluminum jobs, gather up enough of you to make a group buy and I can get them for you for so cheap it will make your head spin.  The markup on those things is unbelievable.  Need ten people wanting the same thing all at once to do it.  I will even forego ANY PROFIT at all since I really believe they are a waste of time.

I'm up for it if you do it Steve.  Thanks.
 

 

3/11/2014 11:16 PM  #17


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

MustangSteve wrote:

....I can honestly say I have never understood the need for an overflow tank on a SBF. ~~~~~  I will even forego ANY PROFIT at all since I really believe they are a waste of time.

Not sure how you can make such statements as this forum and others are full of posts about stock early V8's running warm/hot.  Mine in particular is a dead stock 289 2bbl with a stock dimension upgraded 3 row radiator running a shrouded 7 blade flex fan.  Running at parade speeds, in 60ish° weather, it would always run warmish then puke coolant once I shut it down.  This is all on a low mileage factory long block with no possibility of compromised coolant passages.

Once I installed the 3 x 10" tubular recovery system, it no longer blew out coolant on shut down.
 

 

3/12/2014 5:37 AM  #18


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

My reason of an overflow was I have an AC, and with the AC on in the summer heat, I would loose some coolant through the overflow line... After cooling, I would be low , and that top part of the radiator accounts for a significant amount of cooling, so... Keeping my radiator full at all times


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3/12/2014 1:34 PM  #19


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

boomyal wrote:

MustangSteve wrote:

....I can honestly say I have never understood the need for an overflow tank on a SBF. ~~~~~  I will even forego ANY PROFIT at all since I really believe they are a waste of time.

Not sure how you can make such statements as this forum and others are full of posts about stock early V8's running warm/hot.  Mine in particular is a dead stock 289 2bbl with a stock dimension upgraded 3 row radiator running a shrouded 7 blade flex fan.  Running at parade speeds, in 60ish° weather, it would always run warmish then puke coolant once I shut it down.  This is all on a low mileage factory long block with no possibility of compromised coolant passages.

Once I installed the 3 x 10" tubular recovery system, it no longer blew out coolant on shut down.
 

My stock rad setup with a flex fan (no shroud) spit up coolant in traffic during summer time in Houston.  I moved to a four core all aluminum radiator with a home made shroud and it hasn't been an issue since.  I already had the recovery bottle though.

 

3/12/2014 5:14 PM  #20


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

I made this one from a 12 inch length of 2 inch od aluminum tube. The aluminum bottom and pipeing are from my scrap bin and aluminum brazed to the big tube. The cap was turned on a lathe and uses an "O" ring for an interference fit for retention.The brackets were band sawed from 3/8" aluminum flat stock.  


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3/12/2014 8:11 PM  #21


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

That is a real cut above, Rudi.  What is that clamped to?

 

3/12/2014 8:31 PM  #22


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Rudi wrote:

I made this one from a 12 inch length of 2 inch od aluminum tube. The aluminum bottom and pipeing are from my scrap bin and aluminum brazed to the big tube. The cap was turned on a lathe and uses an "O" ring for an interference fit for retention.The brackets were band sawed from 3/8" aluminum flat stock.  

Nice work!
 


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3/12/2014 10:09 PM  #23


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

Typically the radiators that puke out coolant are overfilled.  Correct level is 1" BELOW the bottom of the filler neck.  Any more than that and it will self-correct until it reaches that level, the it will stop.  The tank does not add to the cooling effect that takes place in the finned tubes.  It just needs to have enough water in it to reach all the tubes.

You can say I am wrong if you want, but they did not have overflow tanks from the factory.  I'm not saying I am not for improvements whenever possible.  Just saying that I have never had one overflow when filled to the proper level, no matter what the temperature was outside or how long I idled in traffic.  A 13 # cap like was originally installed is a must for proper water retention. 

If it makes you feel more secure to have an overflow tank, by all means install one.  But an overflow tank will not keep an engine with an overheating problem from overheating.

And, if you run in sanctioned drag racing, I believe one is an absolute requirement according to their rules.


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3/13/2014 7:55 AM  #24


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

MustangSteve wrote:

Typically the radiators that puke out coolant are overfilled.  Correct level is 1" BELOW the bottom of the filler neck.  Any more than that and it will self-correct until it reaches that level, the it will stop.  The tank does not add to the cooling effect that takes place in the finned tubes.  It just needs to have enough water in it to reach all the tubes.

You can say I am wrong if you want, but they did not have overflow tanks from the factory.  I'm not saying I am not for improvements whenever possible.  Just saying that I have never had one overflow when filled to the proper level, no matter what the temperature was outside or how long I idled in traffic.  A 13 # cap like was originally installed is a must for proper water retention. 

If it makes you feel more secure to have an overflow tank, by all means install one.  But an overflow tank will not keep an engine with an overheating problem from overheating.

And, if you run in sanctioned drag racing, I believe one is an absolute requirement according to their rules.

I didn't know that .  I always filled up around to the 1/2" below or a little higher.  If I ever made it up to the collar level I'd expect a little overflow.  It was an adjustment moving from the stock to the four row though.  I've had to burp the newer one more than once even after letting it cycle.  I love it though, cools great.

 

3/13/2014 3:21 PM  #25


Re: Who has a good looking overflow jug set-up?

MustangSteve wrote:

Typically the radiators that puke out coolant are overfilled.  Correct level is 1" BELOW the bottom of the filler neck.  Any more than that and it will self-correct until it reaches that level, the it will stop.  The tank does not add to the cooling effect that takes place in the finned tubes.  It just needs to have enough water in it to reach all the tubes.

You can say I am wrong if you want, but they did not have overflow tanks from the factory.  I'm not saying I am not for improvements whenever possible.  Just saying that I have never had one overflow when filled to the proper level, no matter what the temperature was outside or how long I idled in traffic.  A 13 # cap like was originally installed is a must for proper water retention. 

If it makes you feel more secure to have an overflow tank, by all means install one.  But an overflow tank will not keep an engine with an overheating problem from overheating.

And, if you run in sanctioned drag racing, I believe one is an absolute requirement according to their rules.

I have to Agree with MS on this one. I have one because of Drag Racing and Autocross requirements. ALso, the old Mustangs never had a Closed Coolant system. People did put an overflow tank on them, such as a used can and such. Once you hook up one that lets the coolant get sucked back into the radiator, you are now using a Closed system and not just a Puke Can.... $.02
 


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