Not sure what type of halogen set up to use but if you are going to change over I would use relays with them. Best to mount the relays up front near the lights and battery. Part of the idea of relays is to stop the higher current to run the lights from going through your head light switch. This will help the life of the switch. Also, with the relays mounted near the front, you have less voltage drop than going from the battery back to the light switch and back up front to the lights. Less voltage drop will help the lights burn brighter. You may want to try a relay set up with your stock lights and see if that helps. If it does not you can use the same relay setup with the halogen lights.
 

It's real satisfying, Gaba, when the ol' stang is tight and quiet.  It makes it the fun car it should be.
As for the headlights, IMHO anything you put in that draws more juice than stock, you should do relays.  I just went thru that with my '65.  I had 32 year old (but hardly ever used) Sylvania Halogen Sealed Beams.

My headlight switch died, so I replaced it, then built a relay system that did not cut into the OEM harness but provided new 12 ga wires out to my new headlights. Unlike you, I opted for the expensive, high powered Cibie 90/100 watt headlights.  Wow!  Talk about lights!







 

Newer style headlights don't necessarily mean they are better. When I tore my car down, I replaced my bulbs with some h-4 conversion lamps (housings, adapters...whatever). They were bright, but I always felt like I was outrunning my lights at night.

The other night I was parking in the garage and I got a little too close to the tablesaw and broke the glass on one of my headlamps. I replaced them with some $9 sylvanias and, although they are not as white as the H-4s, but I can see so much better.

This is one case where one of my "upgrades" was not really an upgrade.
BobN

BobN wrote:

   ......They were bright, but I always felt like I was outrunning my lights at night............

Bob, that's 'cause you didn't use the right stuff!  Yeah, if you had  broken one of them on the table saw it would have not been so cheap to repair, but...........in a few instances, the French had a better idea!
 

Last edited by boomyal (3/10/2014 6:03 PM)

So.. friends.. I did tried to find the relays I couldnt find all what I needed. I would realy appreciate your help in where to go and what to find.. Lol.. even premade relay harness is acceptable to me :D .. 

And again, what halogen lamps

Congrats on the progress!   That's a great looking car.  I know you'll enjoy it.

About the headlights, I've found that a lot of the aftermarket bulb and reflector headlamp assemblies are really intended for motorcycles and they have a light pattern that is not "friendly" to cars (as BobN discovered).  

A halogen bulb does not necessarily mean that you have to use relays.  Try some of the off-the-shelf sealed beam replacments from your auto parts store - they're almost all halogen these days.  They will be legal, will fit your car with no issues, won't blind other drivers when properly aimed, and will provide more light output per electrical watt input than a standard sealed beam.  

If the lights are still not up to par, then do the relays.

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John Ha wrote:

Congrats on the progress!   That's a great looking car.  I know you'll enjoy it.

About the headlights, I've found that a lot of the aftermarket bulb and reflector headlamp assemblies are really intended for motorcycles and they have a light pattern that is not "friendly" to cars (as BobN discovered).  

A halogen bulb does not necessarily mean that you have to use relays.  Try some of the off-the-shelf sealed beam replacments from your auto parts store - they're almost all halogen these days.  They will be legal, will fit your car with no issues, won't blind other drivers when properly aimed, and will provide more light output per electrical watt input than a standard sealed beam.  

If the lights are still not up to par, then do the relays.

 Just for giggles check the voltage you are getting at the headlight bulb before you do anything. When I checked mine I was getting a bit over eleven volts so did the relay conversion and got full output from the electrical system, over 13 volts which resulted in way brighter lighting.
 Old wireing will reduce the output of the head lights plus the added current draw will likely put a strain on the headlight switch and cause the internal breaker to pop in and out.

MarkinSC wrote:

http://www.ronfrancis.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HR-58

My harness makes more sense. You don't have to fiddle with the dimmer switch.  All the work is completed from the starter relay forward to each headlight.
 

Rudi wrote:

Lots of info here. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html
As for what type, most Mustang supply houses have halogen sealed beam replacements. I used a Try-Bar set up  from NPD with H-3 bulbs, real flame throwers!
 

Rudy, TriBar is the name I could not remember.  I ordered a set of those before I got the Cibies.  They were too deep.  They would not fit in the '65 headlight bucket and allow you to attach the stainless ring.  Even if I had butchered my buckets, the connectors would have run into the cast healight housing.

Daniel Stern is where I got the Cibies. He seemed to be the only one dealing in them. They were not cheap like they were (relatively speaking) when I used them back in the seventies.  I suppose that is because there are no current vehicles that use that type of headlight.  But as they were back in the 70's, they remain to be the best sealed beam replacement.  Hellas may be decent lights but they have a very flattish lense and do not look good.

Besides that, the TriBars did not have an original sealed beam appearance whereas, except for some engineered fluting on the lens, at a glance you cannot tell the Cibies from standard sealed beams.
 

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boomyal wrote:

Rudi wrote:

Lots of info here. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html
As for what type, most Mustang supply houses have halogen sealed beam replacements. I used a Try-Bar set up  from NPD with H-3 bulbs, real flame throwers!
 

Rudy, TriBar is the name I could not remember.  I ordered a set of those before I got the Cibies.  They were too deep.  They would not fit in the '65 headlight bucket and allow you to attach the stainless ring.  Even if I had butchered my buckets, the connectors would have run into the cast healight housing.

Daniel Stern is where I got the Cibies. He seemed to be the only one dealing in them. They were not cheap like they were (relatively speaking) when I used them back in the seventies.  I suppose that is because there are no current vehicles that use that type of headlight.  But as they were back in the 70's, they remain to be the best sealed beam replacement.  Hellas may be decent lights but they have a very flattish lense and do not look good.

Besides that, the TriBars did not have an original sealed beam appearance whereas, except for some engineered fluting on the lens, at a glance you cannot tell the Cibies from standard sealed beams.
 

 Yes the Tri-bars are deep but there is a 90 degree connector available for them so that they don't interfere with the back of the bucket and I got them because they are not stock appearance.
I like different, to a certain extent.

MarkinSC wrote:

http://www.ronfrancis.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HR-58

Gaba wrote:

So.. friends.. I did tried to find the relays I couldnt find all what I needed. I would realy appreciate your help in where to go and what to find.. Lol.. even premade relay harness is acceptable to me :D .. 

And again, what halogen lamps

 

  Mark I just installed the Ron Francis HR 56 Halogen light  relay kit recently...It's made for GM cars but I hard wired it to My 70 Mach 1 ...alot less wires...Works perfect one relay....jj

Gaba.........we have a guy on here Mr. Tim  who gave me a heckuva deal on a pair of halogen headlamps with the bulbs! Ask him what they were for(car/bike/tractor?) I'd like to know also because if the bulb ever burns out......I need to know the replacement number!