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About a year ago I made a post detailing how I had come up with a better option than the factory plastic parts for securing an electric fan to the core of a radiator. At the time MS commented about the fans being attached directly to the core"
"Why not build some brackets to mount it away from the radiator core? Some of the guys here have made some pretty impressive mounts. Your screws and washers are certainly a major leap from the plastic junk, but I have severe reservations about mounting anything directly to the core. That thing will bounce around alot going down the road, and the core will be bouncing with it."
When I first installed the fans it hadn't occurred to me to find a different way to install the fans other than connecting them to the core. I mean thats how lots of people do it and thats what the install kit that came with the fans was designed to do, but after reading MS's post I realized that he was correct and that mounting directly to the core was a bad idea. I hadn't had time to come up with a better option until today.
My solution was to build an aluminum fan shroud and mount the fans to the shroud. I used a piece of .080 aluminum and then cut out the openings for the fan. I then took some .5" aluminum angle pieces and pop-riveted them to the main piece. The angle pieces added rigidity to the main piece, formed the sides of the shroud, and acted as standoffs between the fan plate and the radiator. I then used rubber tubing on the edge of the angle pieces so that there would not be metal on metal contact and to dampen vibrations between the fan and radiator. With the rubber on the edge of the angle pieces there is 5/8" between the fan plate and the radiator. (didn't have enough room to make it stand any further off the radiator) The whole assembly was then attached to the radiator. I am very pleased with the results. I fired up the fans and I could feel air being drawn through out the entire radiator not just directly in front of the fans.
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That should cool her down.
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Nice work. How is this one attached to the radiator frame?
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MustangSteve wrote:
Nice work. How is this one attached to the radiator frame?
It is bolted to the top and bottom core support.
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I would think that would help stabilize the radiator now, making the frame of the radiator stiffer. 5/8" seems kind of close, but you have so much of the area covered by the fans themselves it should flow really well. Heck, you may have to put a hotter thermostat in that engine just to get it up to temperature!
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Is there any space between the shroud and the cooling fins?, There should be at leasst an inch or so for the fans to able to draw air from the entire rad. not just where the fan locations are.
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Looks good Daze. What fans are you using? Controller?
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Rudi wrote:
Is there any space between the shroud and the cooling fins?, There should be at leasst an inch or so for the fans to able to draw air from the entire rad. not just where the fan locations are.
There is 5/8". I would have liked a full 1" but there wasn't room. If I had had more room I would have made a Fiberglas shroud that contoured to improve airflow. As it is even with only 5/8 I was still getting good airflow through the entire radiator and the 5/8" is way better than what I had before with both fans mounted directly to the core.
McStang wrote:
Looks good Daze. What fans are you using? Controller?
i got them off eBay. They are 2500 CFM each and are 14". As a controller I have a thermal switch, a relay, back spark diode, an over ride switch and a bunch of wire.
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Realy nice work Daze. I bought one of those fans and it pretty much covers the stock radiator in my 66. You put two 14" fans on that radiator and they don't even look cramped. That radiator is Ginormous!!! What the heck does it go in?
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Hornman wrote:
That radiator is Ginormous!!! What the heck does it go in?
It is living in my 62 Galaxie currently however it is even wider that the radiator designed for the old Gal. This unit came out of an 83 Grand Marques. when I originally dropped in the 302 the Marques was the donor car and there were issues with the Galaxie radiator so I worked with what I had. Later when I went to aluminum I found a place that made replacement aluminum radiators for an early 80 Marques.
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So what's a 'back spark diode' and where does it go in the line? What are you using for the thermal switch? Sorry to be dense but I figure I might as well learn something today!
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McStang wrote:
So what's a 'back spark diode' and where does it go in the line? What are you using for the thermal switch?
"Since the motor is an inductive load and an inductor is an energy storage device, when the contacts of the relay open, the energy that is stored in the motor has no place to go. The voltage increases (negatively) and a spark is created across the relay contacts, greatly reducing the contact service life. If a diode is placed (reverse biased) across the motor, it will not conduct in normal operation but will conduct when the relay contacts are opened, thereby supressing the spark. The current is said to "freewheel" through the diode and the motor after the supply current from the battery is interrupted. This voltage spike can get unbelievably high, hundreds of volts for a 12V system. Use a 1N5404 which is rated at 3A, 400PIV."
I got the thermal switch from summit racing. it mounts to the intake and gets the temp directly from the coolant in the intake.
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Hey Day - how 'bout posting a wiring diagram (here or your website). Some of us can't do anything without a picture.
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day, Is that the same thing that is needed in a relay for a fuel pump?? I remember when I wired mine up I was told to use a certain relay with the diode in it. Mine came out of a BMW
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That is exactly why some relays come with a built in diode. That reverse spark will shorten the lif of the relay. I don't think it would be as critical a need on a fuel pump but I can still see the advantage of putting one on.
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