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4/28/2015 8:30 AM  #26


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

I would have bet on an intake gasket but there is no question what failed.  No telling how the heads were torqued last time but to avoid one potential source of uneven or improper torque, get a bottoming tap and clean out each head bolt hole.  If there is rust or junk down in the holes, you will get a false torque reading when the bolt runs into the junk and are not clamping the head.  A standard tap with a taper will not clean up the very bottom threads so make sure you get a bottoming type.

 

4/28/2015 5:32 PM  #27


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

By looking at your picture it looks like the combustion chamber to the right of the blown gasket cylinder has a lot less threads for the spark plug. It could be the angle that the picture was taken, but it looks like almost no threads are left.

 

4/28/2015 9:37 PM  #28


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

I wonder if the 68 302 heads are the J code heads.  They had  53cc chambers, which would be a great head for that engine.  See if the intake valves are 1.72" or 1.84" diameter.  Looks like a closed chamber head, so they might be the good ones.  They can easily swap in some 351W valves with some minor work.


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4/28/2015 10:13 PM  #29


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

GPatrick wrote:

I would have bet on an intake gasket but there is no question what failed.  No telling how the heads were torqued last time but to avoid one potential source of uneven or improper torque, get a bottoming tap and clean out each head bolt hole.  If there is rust or junk down in the holes, you will get a false torque reading when the bolt runs into the junk and are not clamping the head.  A standard tap with a taper will not clean up the very bottom threads so make sure you get a bottoming type.

Take care running taps.  I broke one off in a big block.  Not much fun that day.  Spent 2 hours and 3 carbide bits reaming it out.  I can still hear a slight ringing in my ears from the air drill.....  I can say for sure I did not think highly of my decision to clean and bottom tap the threads at that point.   Still, it is a good idea and will ensure correct torque settings.

Just dont rush it..
 


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4/29/2015 2:53 PM  #30


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

My 2 centz......
Have the heads milled(your machinist should know how much is safe) and tell them you want a performance "multi-angle" valve job. Just those two things will make a difference in the "butt-o-meter/dyno"!
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4/29/2015 3:29 PM  #31


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

SA69Mach wrote:

GPatrick wrote:

I would have bet on an intake gasket but there is no question what failed.  No telling how the heads were torqued last time but to avoid one potential source of uneven or improper torque, get a bottoming tap and clean out each head bolt hole.  If there is rust or junk down in the holes, you will get a false torque reading when the bolt runs into the junk and are not clamping the head.  A standard tap with a taper will not clean up the very bottom threads so make sure you get a bottoming type.

Take care running taps.  I broke one off in a big block.  Not much fun that day.  Spent 2 hours and 3 carbide bits reaming it out.  I can still hear a slight ringing in my ears from the air drill.....  I can say for sure I did not think highly of my decision to clean and bottom tap the threads at that point.   Still, it is a good idea and will ensure correct torque settings.

Just dont rush it..
 

Also, its best not to use regular taps to clean up existing threads for critical bolt holes.  A regular tap will always cut metal, and the bolt will be looser.  Usually that's not a big issue, but threaded holes like head and main bolts should be chased with thread restorer taps like these: http://www.autoserviceprofessional.com/article/94859/Thread-chasing-Restoring-male-or-female-fastener-threads?Page=2.
If you don't want to buy thread restorers, you can do this to a grade 8 bolt instead: http://www.instructables.com/id/Inexpensive-thread-chaser/.  Just use some oil.


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4/29/2015 3:54 PM  #32


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Those are the standard heads.   The desireable 68 heads are C8OE    and have an "F" cast in.  Yours has an E

Here is what they look like.  Notice the heart shape of the combustion chamber.  



Im not saying you have bad heads or anything.  They just do not appear to the the 4V heads that have the 53.5 cc combustion chamber.  


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4/29/2015 5:55 PM  #33


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Well Guy's I found these heads all ready done I'm going to pick them up Saturday Morning I know the price is a bit high but it's up here in Canada I will let You's know how eveything works out

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4/29/2015 9:07 PM  #34


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Be sure those springs will do what you need them to do.  Doesn't 90 # seem light?


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4/30/2015 11:30 AM  #35


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

That's not too much for a set of rebuilt heads.  The machine work and parts will be near that cost. Go get them and get the ole girl back on the road


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5/04/2015 10:19 AM  #36


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

I wnat to Thank Everyone that has commented on this Fourm about helping Me and a Thank You to JKordzi for the advice on using a bolt with a cut in it to chase the threads it worked greatI picked up me new redone 289 heads. Now I have 289 Heads on My 289 Block not the 302 heads anymore the head were also re serviced 0.20 I'm adding Pictures but I'm still cleaning things up before I put the heads back on Phots of the A/C moved out of the way Thanks Guy's I Will post More Picture when I have everthing back together

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5/04/2015 10:43 AM  #37


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Be sure this tab on the head gasket is in front.  Most gaskets have FRONT stamped in them so the water passages come out right.


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5/06/2015 3:23 PM  #38


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Well Just got My Mustang Heads on now and Running all is good I put an Edlebrock FB4 intake on the engine that I had lying around for some time now with a new 600 CFM carburator I had to buy I want to Thank Everyone that commented on this post You's were all very helpful Thank's Gotstang

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5/06/2015 3:45 PM  #39


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Just curious, but how are you getting gasoline to the secondary bowl of your carburetor?  Was the picture taken before you completed the fuel lines?


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5/06/2015 3:52 PM  #40


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

It is a 600 CFM Carb single feed dual bowl vacum secondaries electric choke  not a dual bowl  double pumper

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5/06/2015 4:59 PM  #41


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Double pumper or vacuum secondaries has nothing to do with it.  It is not like the old Holleys that had a tube connecting the front and rear bowls.  The bowls are similar to a double pumper on your carb, although vacuum operated secondaries.

That Quick Fuel carb requires a fuel line to the front and rear bowls, not just to the front.  There is no connection to the rear bowl.  But, you will figure that out the first time the secondaries try to open, even if they are vacuum operated.  Note the fuel level sight glass on the secondaries.  There is no fuel in that bowl. I am not going to ask how you set the float level because I think I probably already know the answer.

You need a line connecting the two bowls down the passenger side if you are going to feed it from the driver side.


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5/06/2015 5:52 PM  #42


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Thanks Mustang Steve I had another look at the carburator and Yes I do indeed need a duel feed fuel line Thanks I will work on that tomorrow Thanks again for pointing that out or I would have been driving with 2v and not 4v Lol

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5/06/2015 6:01 PM  #43


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Mustang Steve I found this in my garage Is this what I need for my carburator

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5/06/2015 8:46 PM  #44


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

You could use that dual feed line if it is the correct center-to-center length.  You will probably have to buy an extra fitting as your prmary bowl is blocked off on the passenger side, being fed from the driver side.  Mine is the same way.  I just installed a 5/16" steel line between the two passenger side inlets.  That is the way Ford used to do Holleys like the ones on Boss 302, except they just used a 1/4" line between the two bowls.  You also might want to reconsider how you have your gas filer and hose routed.


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5/07/2015 9:29 AM  #45


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

If you use that dual feed line, check the flare on the back bowl - it looks like it has a ding on its edge.  BTW, I never use these and just make my own using brass fittings.  Let me know if you want to see a picture.


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5/07/2015 10:18 AM  #46


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

I Bought the correct dual feed line this morning for this carurater had to relocate my coil but all good love this carurater and the new heads and all the Help I got from the Mustang Steve Forum Now we have another Mustang on the roads Here is a pic of the correct duel feed line and some left over PartsLeft over PartsWife's 2014 V6 Mustang

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5/07/2015 10:21 AM  #47


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

JKordzi Yes I would like to see a picture of the fittings You made cause I hve other Projects on the go Thank's

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5/07/2015 1:03 PM  #48


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Now you need to hook up that electric choke.

 

5/09/2015 8:06 AM  #49


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

gotstang wrote:

JKordzi Yes I would like to see a picture of the fittings You made cause I hve other Projects on the go Thank's

Here you go.  The fuel line is 3/8" stainless steel and the junction block is brass.  I may put a bend in the lines to the bowles so the line doesn't lay on the heater hose.


 

Last edited by jkordzi (5/09/2015 8:09 AM)


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5/09/2015 8:42 AM  #50


Re: Whie Smoke and Antifreeze coming out tail pipe

Im digging the high performance carb cover.

 

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