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I am looking at buying a lift for the shop. I am leaning towards a Bendpak XPR-10A, but last year at Terry's house I saw the four post lift and thought it was cool that you could put wheels on it and move it around. Helped get a Mustang off of a trailer in a unique way.
So what are the pros and cons of each in the many varied opinions?
Can you work all four wheels up to be able to work on the suspension of car with a four post?
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I have the Bendpak its a little more and you do have to buy casters and drain pans separately but its worth it in my opinion. and it matches Ford Blue pretty well. To lift all four wheels you will need rolling jack and a bridge tray for your jack stands. takes a little time but it's well worth it.
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I have that exact gap jack!!
Four post lifts Suck for doing suspension work. If you have 2 gap jacks it would be ok
You saw the versatility of the 4 post as far as being able to move it around. I have moved it with a car on it its very tough as those steel casters don't steer very well.
I would say shop around and get the best price you can. My lift came out of Texas but the company shut its doors. The big thing you want to think about is handling the lift once you get it to put it together. I used my Kubota tractor as much as I could but it bearly would lift one of the platforms that you drive on. I did put it together by myself. here is some reading on the subject
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I have a four post here at home in my garage and it is wonderful as far as versatility. I also have a two post in my shop across town and it is wonderful too. I use the four post far more than the two post. I made attachments for alignments and have modified two small scissor jacks to make wheel removal very easy. I also have the gap jack like in the above picture. Since I am always cutting, frame and unibody straightening, and welding on my cars, the four post is a real nice fixture for that. With the jacks and blocks it is very easy to get everything lined up just right for welding back together. On the other hand, for street car work, the two post is mandatory. So it just depends on what you so the most of. Wheel, brake, exhaust, and most work on transverse engine vehicles is best on the two post, most everything else I prefer the four post. Both of mine came from Greg Smith and I bid on ebay auctions for the best price. My son lives in Indy, so I am down there a lot so I just take the trailer and pick it up. That store in Indy is quite the candy store for me!
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If your LT plan includes a lot of wheel/suspension work, 2 post may be better suited for that. We have a 4 post as stacked storage is the LT goal.
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In my opinion, if you can only have one I'd go with the two post. A four post is a pain if you have to do brakes, rotate tires, swap a rear or do gears in a rear. They are great for stuff where you need the car at ride height though, like making sure an exhaust fits, etc. Ideally you'd want both, but if given only one as an option I'd go two post.
I'm a fan of used equipment for this stuff too. I bought my two post Rotary lift (like $4,500 new) for $1,500 from a body shop that closed. It looked brand new, I'm not even sure they ever used it. Look around on Craigslist. I had no problem finding mine, in fact I found two, bought them both and resold the one I didn't use within a month.
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I love my 4 post with bridge jack and pole jacks....I can do anything on it....plus I have a work bench to put stuff on while working on it. I've done it all suspension, brakes, steering, exhaust, subframes, transmission pulls, motor pulls, chunk changes, whole rear changes....all made easier with the 4 post than jack and jack stands. I've even done 4 wheel rotation with 1 bridge jack and two pole stands.
The only negative/complaint I have....is remembering to duck when entering and exiting from any angle ;)
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Dodgestang your forgot to mention those awesome LED lights I saw on your lift!!
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Forgetting to duck can get you on any lift. I've hit my head on tires, driveshafts, rears, etc. But, it beats getting ATF in your hair...
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I have both, BUT if I only had one it would be a four post because it does so much more.
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terry wrote:
Dodgestang your forgot to mention those awesome LED lights I saw on your lift!!
That is correct...I added high output LED strip lights to it and there is no need for any other lighting when working under the car now ;)
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Wonder if the four post can get narrow enough to allow my Classic Mini on it. Very small wheel base width.
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My vote is for backyard buddy lifts. 4 post with boxed beams made in USA.
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TKOPerformance wrote:
Forgetting to duck can get you on any lift. I've hit my head on tires, driveshafts, rears, etc. But, it beats getting ATF in your hair...
After the first head bump I bought a bump hat liner that fits in a baseball cap, and cut off the visor. Hangs on the hoist problem solve.
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Mochaman wrote:
Wonder if the four post can get narrow enough to allow my Classic Mini on it. Very small wheel base width.
I put MG Midgets and Fiat 850's on mine no problem.
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dodgestang wrote:
terry wrote:
Dodgestang your forgot to mention those awesome LED lights I saw on your lift!!
That is correct...I added high output LED strip lights to it and there is no need for any other lighting when working under the car now ;)
That is a WOW! I gotta do it, on my way to Kalamazoo to pick some up now!
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I checked out the website for the 4 and 2 post lifts. I want one! a two post would be great. Does anyone know anybody that is wanting to sell a used one?
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Mochaman wrote:
Wonder if the four post can get narrow enough to allow my Classic Mini on it. Very small wheel base width.
Send me the measurements on your mini and I will see!!
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skunkape wrote:
I checked out the website for the 4 and 2 post lifts. I want one! a two post would be great. Does anyone know anybody that is wanting to sell a used one?
Check Craigslist for your area and surrounding areas. That's how I found mine. Occasionally guys will put flyers for stuff like that at our local NAPA too, so if you have a resource like that it could pay off as well.
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Thanks Terry. I have to go find my small tape measure and will get you the measurement tonight.
BTW which manufacture did you have?
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I will have to look at the actual brand. It came from Pace tools in Texas but i think they are out of business
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Best local deal is the Derek Weaver out of Ft.Worth. Unless you can find a used one. For a little more they have guys that deliver and assemble. They put mine together in under 1 hour.
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I put mine together in two hours including dragging each piece in the 120 foot driveway from the broken down delivery truck hooked to a wrecker in the street (could not back in the drive like he was supposed to). I used my creeper and two wheeled cart to position everything and it went together easily. It would have gone a lot quicker but I had the help of a couple of six packs and a yacking neighbor.
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terry wrote:
Mochaman wrote:
Wonder if the four post can get narrow enough to allow my Classic Mini on it. Very small wheel base width.
Send me the measurements on your mini and I will see!!
I used to own a 59 Austin 850, the base car for the original Mini Cooper. Its track width was so narrow that only the outside half of each tire was on the lift! Made for excitement every time I had to put it up.
BTW: I installed a built MG 1100 in it. (>100hp) at 1200 lb it would blow the doors off of any sports car of the day. Porsche Super 90's were my favorite target. It was a blast!
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