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1/23/2016 4:36 PM  #1


brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Finished the install of Mustang Steve's brake pedal modification today on my 1966 Coupe.  There is not room for the brake light switch to fit, too close to the steering column.  Anyone have a good alternative switch?

Dennis


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1/23/2016 4:43 PM  #2


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

I did the same mod to my 66 and had problems fitting a switch in there. I used a 70 switch from an automatic car and it works fine. That said you could use a pressure switch installed directly to your master cylinder.


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1/23/2016 4:45 PM  #3


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

This is addressed in the instructions that no one ever reads!


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1/23/2016 4:54 PM  #4


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Steve,

I did read the instructions. Is the 67-70 Mustang switch shorter as well as requiring less pressure to activate?


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1/23/2016 5:41 PM  #5


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Dkralc wrote:

Steve,

I did read the instructions. Is the 67-70 Mustang switch shorter as well as requiring less pressure to activate?

The power brake pedal switch is activated with much less pedal pressure than the manual brake pedal switch. On my 68, I used a 69 power brake pedal, but didn't switch over the switch from my manual brake pedal. I had problems with people almost rear ending me because I was almost stopped before the lights would come on. The switches looked identical, but the power brake pedal had a much lighter spring.
 


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1/23/2016 6:50 PM  #6


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

The later switches are physically the same size. A dent in the steering column tube will usually allow clearance. Also you may be able to loosen the booster stud nuts and pull upwards on the booster for a little extra room .


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1/25/2016 4:15 PM  #7


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

I wasn't a fan of the factory switches, so I got a micro switch at an electronics store with a small bearing at the end. It was all of $2.00 and is tiny. I made a small L bracket and bolted to the the pedal support bracket so the switch sits still and the pedal touches it. I have been using it for 5 years without issue. (wish I could say the same for the rest of the car)

BobN

 

2/09/2017 4:39 PM  #8


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Rather than starting a new thread I might as well piggy back on this one.  I installed my brake light switch on my pedal (MS pedal and booster) and everything went together fine, but when I press the brake pedal in, the switch rotates up towards the pedal and the top contact on the switch hits the pedal.  I don't have any wiring in the car yet, so I am wondering is this normal without the wires connected or do I have something installed incorrectly?

Here are some pics.  The first one is after installing the switch, as you can see it is nice and level.  The second one is after pressing the pedal down, you can see how it's rotated up.  And the third pic is with the pedal pushed in. 






Last edited by Chaplin (2/09/2017 9:27 PM)

 

2/09/2017 9:14 PM  #9


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Should be a white plastic spacer between the pedal arm and the switch.


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2/09/2017 9:25 PM  #10


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Thanks, I looked at that diagram when I put it together and I think I've got it set up correctly. 

I assembled in the following order:

1. White nylon washer on post
2. Brake switch
3. Plastic Bushing in rod from booster, then pushed that into the switch and pushed the hole assembly onto the post on the pedal.
4. Another white nylon washer
5. Hitch pin

 

2/10/2017 9:34 AM  #11


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

One solution would be to use two clip on connectors instead of the original plastic plug and bend the tabs for clearance.  Or, I think I remember the Fox Mustang stoplight switch has the clips on the end facing the driver to allow more room.

Last edited by MS (2/10/2017 9:41 AM)


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2/10/2017 9:45 AM  #12


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Thanks, Steve.  I'll pick up a switch for a Fox and see if that works.

 

2/11/2017 8:12 PM  #13


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Good call on the Fox, switch.  I picked one up and the terminals face the drivers seat, which elimates the contact with the pedal.  Thanks!

 

2/12/2017 1:28 AM  #14


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Very cool I'm glad this came up since I'm about ready to button up my MS booster and pedal upgrade. Looks like I'll maybe have to order a fox switch when I pick up my rear brake cylinders from napa.

 

2/12/2017 7:16 AM  #15


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

I picked up a switch for a '93.  Napa also sells a wiring connector for the switch that has the factory style clip on it to clip it to the Fox switch for about $10, I picked one of those up too.

Last edited by Chaplin (2/12/2017 7:26 AM)

 

2/13/2017 10:57 AM  #16


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Chaplin; Part numbers??

 

2/13/2017 2:48 PM  #17


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

 

2/14/2017 12:41 PM  #18


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Oh, that looks sweet. I still run the old switch on my 67 and it's getting worn out. The NAPA part looks good.
Paul

Last edited by Prof (2/14/2017 12:42 PM)

 

2/17/2017 10:58 AM  #19


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Did anyone notice the brake switch in Chaplin's pictures is mounted 180 degrees out?  Notice one of the connection tabs is touching the brake pedal.  The switch needs to mounted so the connection tabs are pointing away from the pedal. 

 

2/17/2017 12:11 PM  #20


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

67StangMan wrote:

Did anyone notice the brake switch in Chaplin's pictures is mounted 180 degrees out?  Notice one of the connection tabs is touching the brake pedal.  The switch needs to mounted so the connection tabs are pointing away from the pedal. 

 
Very true I just noticed that as well after being mentioned.

 

2/17/2017 12:42 PM  #21


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Well, I noticed it! 

But here's the thing, the switch in my pic is a '65 switch and it is installed exactly as is pictured in the diagram that MS posted.  So, the question is, is the diagram, which appears to be the same one that is in my factory service manual, wrong?  If the switch is flipped 180 so the contacts face away from the pedal, that puts the open horseshoe shaped part of the switch on the outside of the post, which is not what is shown in the diagram.

Last edited by Chaplin (2/17/2017 12:43 PM)

 

2/17/2017 5:30 PM  #22


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

Chaplin wrote:

Well, I noticed it! 

But here's the thing, the switch in my pic is a '65 switch and it is installed exactly as is pictured in the diagram that MS posted.  So, the question is, is the diagram, which appears to be the same one that is in my factory service manual, wrong?  If the switch is flipped 180 so the contacts face away from the pedal, that puts the open horseshoe shaped part of the switch on the outside of the post, which is not what is shown in the diagram.

 
Your switch orientation is correct. Whole it COULD be installed "180 out" if you wanted, it would be very difficult to install in that manner, working under the dash.


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2/17/2017 11:02 PM  #23


Re: brake light switch & Mustang Steve pedal mod

An update on my finished MS PB Brake install. I didn't have any problem with fitment of the 1965 mustang brake light switch on my pedal.

 

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