Al;
I converted our 66 to a 68 column and steering box when I first built the car so it already had a rag joint and a custom bracket to hold the bottom of the column solid at the firewall.  The 68 outer column stops at the firewall so all I had to do was push the inner, collapsible  shaft up for just a little extra room required by the Borg box.  I think I used the existing 68 rag joint but I really can't remember.  I did have to move the bottom of the outer column around a bit to align it with the Borg. 

As for performance, I am very happy with the feel and feedback of the unit.  It seems to be pretty precise...not like an R/P but pretty good and way better than the stock stuff.  I use a Ford 5.0 PS pump and ATF for fluid and have not experienced any indication of it getting overly hot.  Butt, I also haven't checked the temp with the IR temp reader. 

Mine returns to center very nicely but I have 5 degrees of caster and I'm using a stock POWER STEERING idler arm.  I think the idler arm is helping a lot.  These are hard to find and pretty pricey when you find one.  I think I paid $165 for mine which is an NOS unit.  The PS Idler Arm bushings are available from NPD and others but so far, I don't think anyone is making the idler arm. 

Yes, good time to freshen up the entire steering if needed.

I did not use a bearing at the bottom of the column as it didn't seem to be needed with the 68 column.  I can see how you would want one , though with a modified stock column.

The bracket I used to hold the bottom of the column to the firewall was a homebrew item since I didn't have a stock 68 bracket.

I'm using a stock 68 PS pitman arm on the Borg box.

Overall I'm very pleased with the simplicity and function of the box.  Got mine as a separate box on sale for around $500.  I got the metric IV to AN adapter fittings from Borgensen and had a local shop make up the custom hoses.

BB
 

Can't talk you into going manual steering with roller bearing pitman and roller idler arm?(Opentracker stuff)

I DON'T have the roller stuff butt.....when I had new  steering components installed (while on the road in Tulsa...long story) and filled up my steering box with grease....it turns and steers like a new car. I have pretty fat tarz on the front and sitting still its still pretty easy for a 67 year old to turn. The roller stuff is suppose to make it even easier!
You won't lose any turning radius either! AND old stuff is what makes'em cool!!
6s6

Installed Borg box couple years ago! Very happy with it!! Doesant center quickly but neither does my other two newer cars? Not an issue with me. Got bout 3 degrees of caster and this 65 drives like a dream!!!! One of the best mods Ive done. BTW, my Borg kit came with U joint, would prefer rag joint however. Howard

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You should check out the Mike Maier system. It costs a little more, but is a really nice system. I just finished fine tuning my manual steering system, which includes the rollerized idler arm. It performs well on the street and the track. 

I'm pulling out the entire O/E power steering on my 68 and installing an electric power steering unit from a modified Pontiac Vue column.
 My set up has a variable control to change the assist from zero to maximum. At full boost  I can turn the steering wheel  with one finger lock to lock with the car parked. On the interstate I can dial it down for a more "manual" feel.

 For the sake of the previously  mentioned nostalgic content, I'm still using a rag joint, see picture below. It couples the EPAS to a FR steering box in ithe original position.

 

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Ron68 wrote:

I installed the Borgeson steering mod in my 68 in July of 2010. To date, I have yet to have any issues at all with the installation or it's operating characteristics. I am somewhat baffled by some comments made by other posters on this board who have had issues with it. Maybe it is the install into years other than a 68, or possibly there have been issues with quality control at Borgeson and the product being sold today is not of the same quality as it was seven years ago. I just know that in my particular case, it has been a very good and reliable system that has operated perfectly for me, and I really love the way it drives and steers, in comparison to the old manual system I had originally. (that being said, the Karma gods will now smite me mightily and my pump will self destruct in a cloud of power steering fluid....)

 LOL!........(You can'tfool me Ron. The weather you guyz are having now.....you couldn't SEE a cloud of PS fluid!!!!!!)
 

Though I don't have the Borgeson system (have a Unisteer rack), I keep an eye on steering systems and have recently seen reports of constant leaking. The current consensus seems to be that the hoses supplied to you are too short to route properly away from the exhaust, so the fluid heats up and ruins the seals. Might be something to keep an eye on - if you find that the hoses are too short to route optimally, make your own instead and route them in some approximation of the stock power steering hose configuration if possible.

The borgeson  system is a great up grade, on 641/2 to 67 with manual trans you may have an  issue with the factory z bar clutch linkage.They (borgeson) make after market z bar for all mustangs up to
 66 that will work ,67 you may have to work something out on your own.
mustang stu
 

I used a belt on my Borgeson install from O'reilly's that is 3/8" X 46 5/8". The number is a 7460.  I hope that helps. This is on a 66 with a 302.

I'm installing the borgeson kit in my 66 mustang. I purchased the MS lower bearing kit. With the rag joint installed and the bearing and lock collar on the shaft it protrudes through the firewall above the column clamp. Is this normal ?
If I put the lower borgeson bushing on the shaft, it is flush with the gear side of the firewall with the column in the clamp. Is this normal for the install .

George wrote:

I'm installing the borgeson kit in my 66 mustang. I purchased the MS lower bearing kit. With the rag joint installed and the bearing and lock collar on the shaft it protrudes through the firewall above the column clamp. Is this normal ?
If I put the lower borgeson bushing on the shaft, it is flush with the gear side of the firewall with the column in the clamp. Is this normal for the install .

Could you post a picture of this?  The bearing can be configured several different ways, including pushing it up into the column tube a bit.

I was able to push the bearing up in the column enough to clear.....Thanks