Mochaman wrote:

I have the AOD. I like it. Fitment in the tunnel is very tight squeeze. I used a kit from CJ that had all the needed brackets and drop down cable. You have to shorten your drive shaft and maybe get a new yoke, but that may be part of the kit. 

could you link that for me ?

what about these parts  (as told to me by one on a FB group)
"flexplate, engine spacer plate, cross member, kickdown cable, harness for the transmission, linkage modified or kit, yoke for transmission"
 

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/drivetrain/mumo-1204-installing-an-automatic-overdrive-transmission/

Here is another kit that has more parts like flex plate and the plate that goes between engine and transmission for similar costs. 
https://ford-aod.com/shop/transmission-aod-levels-2-3-dominator-junior-dominator-junior-extreme-550-and-600-hp-rated/​

Gaba,

When you go looking for a trans or rebuildable core be sure you get an 89 or later.  Apparently there were some significant changes in 89.  I read about this as I was rebuilding the trans from the 89 Lincoln TC donor...just lucked out.  Also, if you can find an 89 or 90 Crown Vic, Merc Marque, or Linc TC donor you can get the trans, front yoke, Backup and Neutral safety switch connectors with pigtails, and the TV cable and brackets.  The TV cable is made to connect to the EFI throttle body but could be easily modified to work with a carb.  And that will save you a few $$ and give you a solid, reliable setup.  You also will have the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) which will be pretty handy if you ever put in a cruise control.
I think you can use the C4 flex plate if that's what you have or if you have a 5.0 you can get the flex plate from the above mentioned donor.  Just make sure what you use has the proper balance for your engine. 
The AOD uses a special torque converter so you can't use the old C4 unit.  As Ed mentioned, it's a tight fit but doesn't require any cutting.  Mine is a finger width from the bottom of the trans hump which makes the tail shaft a bit lower than the C4 and changed the pinion angle a tad which I compensated for with a bit of "wedge" on my custom lowering blocks.  I think you can get a X-member (rear mount) from Glen B or failing that there are lots of other places.
If you use the stock DS you can get a "big&little" U-joint to mate the AOD yoke to the stock DS.  The shifter may be a challenge and there's lots of ways to address this.  I used the stock 66 shifter with heavy mods.  A 67 shifter might be easier but will probably still require some ratio and gate changes.  Or you can go big bux and buy an aftermarket deal but most are pretty ugly in my opinion.  A Fox Mustang shifter may be the easiest, cheapest, best looking solution.

Good luck,

BB

PS:  The trans from the CV, Merc, or TC has the selector arm pointing in the right direction...up  as I recall.


 

Last edited by Bullet Bob (4/26/2018 1:29 PM)

https://www.cjponyparts.com/bellhousing-separator-plate-aluminum-aod-transmission-v8-1980-1993/p/TSP12/

Ok I have read and read ...... and I may Be coming back around to a 4R70W swap esp that I can find 4R70W transmissions for cheap around here.

Then the computer is 600 and then the other parts to make it fit . Comes to about the same

Anyway
Are these kits listed above applicable to the 4R70W swap as well?

Gaba wrote:

Ok I have read and read ...... and I may Be coming back around to a 4R70W swap esp that I can find 4R70W transmissions for cheap around here.

Then the computer is 600 and then the other parts to make it fit . Comes to about the same

Anyway
Are these kits listed above applicable to the 4R70W swap as well?

I don't know if the kit link I gave you will work with 4R70w

 

Rebuilt AOD and the install kit for under a 1000..?

I can’t find a rebuilt AOD for under 1100 (from eBay), and 1600 locally itself plus the kit to instal is 5-600 or so.

Did you rebuild your tranny yourself?

GPatrick wrote:

I just finished a 4R70W install in my 1970 FE powered F-250.  This was a lot more involved as I had to use an adapter with the mod motor version.  I am very pleased with the transmission and the Baumann controller.  It is a much better transmission than the AOD and I prefer a separate controller to a TV cable.  The AOD can work well if used within its limits.  The 4R70W has a better wide ratio setup with lower first and second gears that helps on the performance side, has a full locking torque converter, and has addressed many of the AOD weaknesses.  However, you have to be aware of the hidden costs with the 4R70W install.  The output yoke is different and the factory yoke uses an odd u-joint so a spicer or Sonnax unit is needed - $80 to $150.  An AOD tail housing can be used to allow the older style yoke if you can find one.  You need a throttle position sensor (TPS).  For a carb these can vary between $12 if you can fab your own to $150 or so which will bolt up to a Holley carb.  Baumann (US Shift) no longer sells the unit without a harness so you have to add that in to the cost.  In the past they would sell the connectors and you could build your own.  On the good side, the wiring is painless.  The only other connections are to the TPS, battery power, and ground.  The 98 to 2003 units have provisions for a speedometer gear/cable.  Beyond 2003 (ish) the worm gear is gone and you will have to use a pulse to mechanical converter - another $250 or more or an electronic speedo.  I used the pulse to mechanical unit on mine by the way to solve some other issues and it works perfectly.  Whether using the AOD or 4R70W you will have to make, adapt, or buy a shifter so that is a wash.  I was able to design a bell crank setup for my truck to allow me to use the column shifter - works just like the original.

The transmissions are $79 here at the local pick and pull and fortunately my neighbor is set up to rebuild them.  We did some upgrades for the weight/load of the F-250.  A Sonnax kit for the valve body is an easy install and custom j-mods are easy to make to get the exact shift firmness you want.  If you can find a low-mileage donor, I wouldn't hesitate to install it as-is if the pan looks reasonably clean and the fluid is not burned up.

All-in I have about $2500 in my install but that includes a lot of specifics that I needed for the truck and FE.  The OD and locking converter should buy me some mileage and the C-6 was on its last legs.  We intend to do some retro camping with a smaller vintage trailer in retirement and the 4R70W will make that a little easier.

Look for V6 Mustangs up to 2003 (2004 or newer if you are willing to go with a speedo adapter), V8 two-wheel drive explorers with the 5.0 (98 to 2001, I think), and F-150 two-wheel drive trucks with the 4.2 six cylinder.

I did a lot of research and reading so if you have any questions shoot me a PM.  Waiting in the wings is a 4R100 in the event the 4R70W is not up to the task of the new stroker FE that I am planning.

That right there is extremely helpful! It is good to know what I need and have not thought about price wise.

So AODE is a more expensive swap... but i think i may be setup for a longer time if I go with that when I do.. thinking long term..
Believe me I will be hitting you up for sure when I start collecting stuff for this.
 

I rebuilt my AOD as my first and only autobox rebuild job.  I made a bracket to hold the trans from the side in an engine stand, made a clutch compressing tool, bought a book, seal installing tool set, and a special bar to measure/set end play.  I ordered the rebuild kit from PTC.  The book I have has like 250 photos and captions on how the disassemble and re-assemble the trans and overall it was a relatively simple and educational experience which I would repeat...and may when I go to the 4R70W.
I have loaned my overhaul tool kit to a couple of the guys here and will be happy to lone it to you for the price of two-way shipping if you decide to DIY.

BB
 

Bullet Bob wrote:

I rebuilt my AOD as my first and only autobox rebuild job.  I made a bracket to hold the trans from the side in an engine stand, made a clutch compressing tool, bought a book, seal installing tool set, and a special bar to measure/set end play.  I ordered the rebuild kit from PTC.  The book I have has like 250 photos and captions on how the disassemble and re-assemble the trans and overall it was a relatively simple and educational experience which I would repeat...and may when I go to the 4R70W.
I have loaned my overhaul tool kit to a couple of the guys here and will be happy to lone it to you for the price of two-way shipping if you decide to DIY.



I borrow BB's stuff to do my 4R70W overhaul. I did have a couple of manuals for the AODE and the 4R70W that were a great help, but BB's stuff was definitely a godsend. It was my second overhaul. I did the C4 trans that I replaced with the 4R70W. Give it a try - YOLO.

BB
 

Last edited by Ron68 (5/09/2018 12:17 AM)