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**Posted by 6sally6** 12/14/2024 4:09 PM

how do i google a picture i have

"There is nothing new under the Sun "
6sally6

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**Posted by Ron68** 12/14/2024 4:16 PM

Gee, I wonder if this will catch on? And I wonder what will happen in a rear end collision? Or any collision for that matter.....that's a lot of weight flying around with combustible liquid inside......what could possibly go wrong? And how are you going to charge all those batteries, or service the water in them, or how to vent off all the corrosive gases generated, or the cost to replace all those batteries, etc, etc, etc?

**Posted by rpm** 12/14/2024 4:29 PM

C'mon Ron, your just a hater. 😁

**Posted by Rufus68** 12/14/2024 5:31 PM

They probably thought if it would work in a submarine, then it will work in a Bel-Air.

**Posted by Nos681** 12/14/2024 7:11 PM

Don’t smoke and drive Ron.
It’ll be okay.

**Posted by TKOPerformance** **Online!** 12/15/2024 7:18 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Electric

Truly nothing new. I keep waiting for someone to market a steam car again.

What's especially interesting in that article is how modern batteries are not as good as the ones they used in the early 20th century. They are heavier and less efficient. Yet we keep hearing how far battery technology has come, and that one day it'll be on par with gasoline in terms of range, all weather performance, and speed of refueling. I think its more likely we'll have a moon base beofre that happens.

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**Posted by Ron68** 12/15/2024 2:45 PM

rpm wrote:
C'mon Ron, your just a hater. 😁

Yup. If it doesn't roar and belch fire and smoke, it's a no go with me. Butt, have you ever seen a lithium battery fire? Roaring and belching fire and smoke.....

**Posted by RTM** 12/16/2024 6:42 AM

Had to start somewhere. Take an idea and figure it out.

**Posted by TKOPerformance** **Online!** 12/16/2024 7:05 AM

RTM wrote:
Had to start somewhere. Take an idea and figure it out.

When asked about his over one hundred failures when figuring out the filament for the light bulb Edison replied that he hadn't failed; h had found over 100 ways not to make a light bulb. There's a wisdom in that which seems lost on those designing modern cars, particularly those powered by batteries. 100+ years and the limitations are still the same. Now the justification is that it doesn't matter that the product isn't as good, because we need to save the planet. Of course, this ignores that creating the battery pollutes as bad a a gas car does in 5 years, but it happened in a day. One of the most important things an inventor can do is recognize when something is a dead end. There are alternatives to gasoline and Diesel which actually work, but so long as resources keep being wasted on dead technology they are that much farther out of reach.

**Posted by RTM** 12/16/2024 7:50 AM

TKOPerformance wrote:
RTM wrote:
Had to start somewhere. Take an idea and figure it out.
When asked about his over one hundred failures when figuring out the filament for the light bulb Edison replied that he hadn't failed; h had found over 100 ways not to make a light bulb. There's a wisdom in that which seems lost on those designing modern cars, particularly those powered by batteries. 100+ years and the limitations are still the same. Now the justification is that it doesn't matter that the product isn't as good, because we need to save the planet. Of course, this ignores that creating the battery pollutes as bad a a gas car does in 5 years, but it happened in a day. One of the most important things an inventor can do is recognize when something is a dead end. There are alternatives to gasoline and Diesel which actually work, but so long as resources keep being wasted on dead technology they are that much farther out of reach.

I agree with your reply 100 percent but will try not to get too caught up in it all. Meaning electric cars and other fuel alternatives.

Now ask me how things I've done more than once on my build. Lol

**Posted by RCodePaul** 12/16/2024 3:48 PM

RTM wrote:
Now ask me how things I've done more than once on my build. Lol

Ah, please DON'T ask me how many things I've done more than once on my build. Please.

One thing I don't think I'll ever do is buy an all electric car. Jim across the street had to have one to go with his electric mower, edger, trimmer, hedger, chain saw and even an electric pruner. Sheesh. He bought an all electric KIA (killed in action?) during the lockdowns for $5k over sticker. Ouch. Had to have it. It had the most annoying backup beep in all of history. Not much later, he got in a relatively minor collision. Car was totaled, which seemed impossible based on the damage I closely observed (at his invitation.)
After he fought with AAA for a couple of months to get his "enhanced total loss value" - which he had and qualified for - he got $50k plus for it and promptly bought an ICE powered car. Good riddance.

**Posted by rpm** 12/16/2024 8:06 PM

RCodePaul wrote:
RTM wrote:
Now ask me how things I've done more than once on my build. Lol
Ah, please DON'T ask me how many things I've done more than once on my build. Please.

Welcome to the Done More Than Once Club Paul.

**Posted by TKOPerformance** **Online!** 12/17/2024 6:50 AM

RCodePaul wrote:
RTM wrote:
Now ask me how things I've done more than once on my build. Lol
Ah, please DON'T ask me how many things I've done more than once on my build. Please.

One thing I don't think I'll ever do is buy an all electric car. Jim across the street had to have one to go with his electric mower, edger, trimmer, hedger, chain saw and even an electric pruner. Sheesh. He bought an all electric KIA (killed in action?) during the lockdowns for $5k over sticker. Ouch. Had to have it. It had the most annoying backup beep in all of history. Not much later, he got in a relatively minor collision. Car was totaled, which seemed impossible based on the damage I closely observed (at his invitation.)
After he fought with AAA for a couple of months to get his "enhanced total loss value" - which he had and qualified for - he got $50k plus for it and promptly bought an ICE powered car. Good riddance.

If the damage from a collision comes close to the battery they total the vehicle, because considering the cost of the battery the vehicle is not worth fixing. A damaged battery can short internally and catch fire. The liability is something no one wants to touch. For all the green this and that made over EVs they pollute terribly when made, and then become throw away vehicles once the battery is done. 60% of our power also still comes from fossil fuels.