Edelbrock Performer Manifold

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Posted by Toploader
10/11/2025 6:16 AM
#1

I have considered adding an Edelbrock Performer Manifold for a few years now, but I'm not sure if it is worth it?
Currently the car has the original cast iron one.
I would also stick with the Autolite 4100 as I've found it to be a great carb.
After reading some information on fitting a dual plane manifold, it seems worth doing, but does anyone have any real world experience with doing this?


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 
Posted by Rudi
10/11/2025 9:17 AM
#2

I had one on my 289, no difference from the cast iron original other than being made from lighter material. At the time that’s the only change I made. A couple of years later did more extensive mods but still wanted more horsepower
The Performr RPM did make a difference but with a cam/header/aluminum head  change as well.

Without addressing other mods that improve "breathing” I don’t think that an intake manifold change alone will  make much difference.

Last edited by Rudi (10/11/2025 9:27 AM)


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Posted by 50vert
10/11/2025 10:14 AM
#3

^+1 What Rudi said.


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Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
10/11/2025 10:55 AM
#4

I put one of the Chinese copys of the Performer looks exactly the same with out the logos a good bit cheaper (about $200.00 cheaper) it was on Ebay. Steve put me on them when I was building the 302. I had a Eldebrock 289 on my old car.

Intake Manifold For Ford Small Block Windsor SBF V8 289 302 Dual Plane | eBay

Last edited by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA (10/11/2025 11:02 AM)


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Posted by TKOPerformance
10/11/2025 11:49 AM
#5

If that's all you are changing don't expect anything.  The RPM needs the engine to spin, which most 289 and 302 engines of this period do not.  Add heads, a cam, and better exhaust and spin it to 6k it probably makes 5-7 more HP over a stock manifold.  

 
Posted by Rudi
10/11/2025 5:35 PM
#6

BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:

I put one of the Chinese copys of the Performer looks exactly the same with out the logos a good bit cheaper (about $200.00 cheaper) it was on Ebay. Steve put me on them when I was building the 302. I had a Eldebrock 289 on my old car.

[url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/204373873063?_skw=302+alluminum+intake&itmmeta=01K7A35SDKV2SGV6Y212J0RPSS&hash=item2f95a1d1a7:g:UjIAAOSw9Zlmpy04&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dZERmbOkj1S6I8WkJk2tleHHnShxhC1ZODRbBt45yUlZrJnEEBs2H5KTUZ77z8Gdit9QNQFzi4PhnydgZj5%2FNDcT68iOpzi3QlLNoHrASR1pcy%2BJniiXsJV9I0pgQ7B4cOki8xiMgQV6%2B0e8bR%2BSNgrTvEKbPekTv3cjKcmU8%2BlDvwOXmViIPlzkT%2BkIhgcsMU5%2BFqnIH2FBhiOLGBmbES7JzCngpoiYJKwSRZJ6FicxajTnR2x9paGf%2FgroE1Y2Hr%2BzA8F60InYc%2FHVPGGLMXC5EGlvnY1GDvmFYnaxRKtA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM7JeXw7pm]Intake Manifold For Ford Small Block Windsor SBF V8 289 302 Dual Plane | eBay[/"url]

 
I’d like to see one of those sectioned so the internal runners could be examined, a core shift would surely play havoc with a nicely distributed flow rate.
Hopefully they are better than most of the junk from China.


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Posted by MS
10/11/2025 9:20 PM
#7

Original question:  the Performer is same drsign, just lighter weight.
I have used five of those china knockoffs so far.  They are very high quality. I prefer them because of the lack of advertising.


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Posted by TKOPerformance
10/12/2025 6:05 AM
#8

To be clear, the Performer is designed for idle-5,500 RPM.  The Performer RPM is designed for 1,500-6,500 RPM.  There's no benefit of the Performer over the stock iron manifold, other than its lighter weight.  

I'll pay the additional cost of the Edelbrock for 2 reasons: first, its made in the US, and second IMO its not okay for Chinese companies to steal US IP and undercut those companies.  Part of the reason US made products are more expensive is because of this (they end up selling less so development costs, etc. are spread over less product; raising the price).  I get that this has become political and highly charged with debate over MAGA and anti-MAGA, but my point here is not political.  This has happened over the past 40+ years, so the idea that its the brainchild of one party or the other is gaslighting nonsense.  To me its a business issue, and as the owner of my own business I can't stand when I get undercut, after having done a lot of good faith work for a customer, by some hack who is less qualified and cuts corners.  

 
Posted by Nos681
10/12/2025 9:18 AM
#9

289 Performer on 289 w/ 351W heads (C9) for many years with no complaints.

I had switched from the stock 2 barrel intake and carb.

It was plenty for my type of driving.

 
Posted by Toploader
10/16/2025 11:57 PM
#10

Ok, thanks everyone for the feedback.

I'd love to get the heads reconditioned with some port work, but I reconditioned the engine 21 years ago and I'm thinking I'd be better off holding out until the entire engine needs a full rebuild? I am wondering though...

Its quite surprising that 21 years have gone by and the engine is still holding up this strong.


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 
Posted by TKOPerformance
10/17/2025 4:54 AM
#11

If the heads are not GT40 or GT40P I don't think I'd spend any money on them anyway.  IMO you'd be bucks ahead to buy a set of entry level aluminum heads vs. having a bunch of work done to the old iron heads.  Just something to consider in the future.  

 
Posted by Toploader
10/17/2025 6:33 AM
#12

TKOPerformance wrote:

If the heads are not GT40 or GT40P I don't think I'd spend any money on them anyway.  IMO you'd be bucks ahead to buy a set of entry level aluminum heads vs. having a bunch of work done to the old iron heads.  Just something to consider in the future.  

I was wondering that... If I went with aluminum heads, Inld probably go with the Edelbrock Performer heads. Comparing the specs with them to what I can find on the original cast iron heads, the Edelbrock has larger intake and exhaust valves, so they are a better flowing head already.

My other question... Is it worth whacking Edelbrock Performer heads onto a bottom end that was rebuild 21 years ago or should I wait to rebuild the entire engine. If the engine was showing big signs of wear, the answer would be obvious, but it seems to be holding up well. Very well actually.

3 weeks ago I did some spirited driving on a racetrack and going down the main straight, I was seeing revs up around 6500 rpm or just a bit more each time and the engine seemed happy doing this.

Last edited by Toploader (10/17/2025 6:35 AM)


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 
Posted by lowercasesteve
10/17/2025 1:46 PM
#13

before you start tearing things apart.  Do a compression check.  Two things (and these actual values are just memories).  The cylinders should have within 10 psi of each other.  Pressure should be around 150psi.

Meet that criteria and you are good to go.  Also.  How many miles on the engine?  Mine have gone over 200,000 miles with little loss of cylinder pressure.  It's miles more than age that counts.


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Posted by 6sally6
10/17/2025 3:06 PM
#14

How old are you ??! (Very important in your decision IMHO)
6sally6


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Posted by Toploader
10/17/2025 4:14 PM
#15

lowercasesteve wrote:

before you start tearing things apart.  Do a compression check.  Two things (and these actual values are just memories).  The cylinders should have within 10 psi of each other.  Pressure should be around 150psi.

Meet that criteria and you are good to go.  Also.  How many miles on the engine?  Mine have gone over 200,000 miles with little loss of cylinder pressure.  It's miles more than age that counts.

Good post! I was planning to do this and you are correct about the differential not being more than 10psi per cylinder. I will use this as my guide for sure and it will be the final decision in all of this.

I went through and added up the miles a while back and think I've done maybe 50,000 - 60,000 miles since the rebuild in 2004.


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 
Posted by Toploader
10/17/2025 4:18 PM
#16

6sally6 wrote:

How old are you ??! (Very important in your decision IMHO)
6sally6

Well Sal... let's just say that I'm 11 years younger than my Mustang. 😉

By the way, I missed seeing you at the Bash this year. Maybe you can host the Bash for next year and recover from "the Bash that got cancelled" title 🙂

Last edited by Toploader (10/17/2025 4:19 PM)


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 
Posted by BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA
10/17/2025 5:19 PM
#17

Toploader wrote:

6sally6 wrote:

How old are you ??! (Very important in your decision IMHO)
6sally6

Well Sal... let's just say that I'm 11 years younger than my Mustang. 😉

By the way, I missed seeing you at the Bash this year. Maybe you can host the Bash for next year and recover from "the Bash that got cancelled" title 🙂

If you ever meet Sal you will never forget him I have traveled with him a few times and he is alright.
 


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Posted by TKOPerformance
10/18/2025 5:28 AM
#18

I'd do a compression check, but at only 50-60k miles the bottom end should be fine.  Most carbed engines will go 100k or more, and if you've only logged that kind of mileage in 21 years that engine should last you almost indefinitely.  

 
Posted by Quicksilver
10/18/2025 2:14 PM
#19

What about an Edelbrock AIR GAP intake?


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Posted by lowercasesteve
10/18/2025 8:04 PM
#20

Quicksilver wrote:

What about an Edelbrock AIR GAP intake?

Great manifold. If you have a 65-66 Mustang, it does not fit under the hood.  Performer RPM does.  If you have a 351W under that 65-66 only the Performer will fir.
 


Original owner - 351w,T-5, 4whl disks, power R&P
 


 
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