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10/31/2020 4:44 PM  #1


Gotta call BS...

Had a weak moment yesterday morning as I enjoyed my first cup of java. Made the mistake of watching an episode of Fantom Works. The boys were messing with an AC system that required R12. When the customer came in for the bill, good ol Dan said, Do you know how hard it is to get R12 and what it costs? Why it's $500 to $1000 per pound! Gee Dan, I've got a few pounds of the stuff I'll sell you at half price.....and I see it for sale on Craigslist all the time.

Needless to say, I won't be tuning in again to that show...


.......common sense is a flower that doesn’t grow in everyone’s garden.......
 

10/31/2020 5:22 PM  #2


Re: Gotta call BS...

So the 30# bottle, new and unused, sitting in my garage is worth 15-30 thousand dollars! Sweet.


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

10/31/2020 6:54 PM  #3


Re: Gotta call BS...

RV6 wrote:

So the 30# bottle, new and unused, sitting in my garage is worth 15-30 thousand dollars! Sweet.

 
Glad I could help Gary!


.......common sense is a flower that doesn’t grow in everyone’s garden.......
     Thread Starter
 

10/31/2020 7:08 PM  #4


Re: Gotta call BS...

Yep


And they use hardware store bolts on engines, too.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

11/01/2020 5:52 AM  #5


Re: Gotta call BS...

Some of those shows are ok,But I think most make it look easy. And it is not a fast process.


If its worth doing do it right !
 

11/01/2020 7:55 AM  #6


Re: Gotta call BS...

My favorite are the continuity errors, where you'll see something completed in one scene, then 20 minutes later its not done.

Ah, for these guys its a business, and that's exactly what reality TV is.  Its TV, but its not very real.  They monkey with stuff in editing, they build fake suspense and drama, and yep, they stretch the truth.  Without that it would probably be boring to watch for 90% of their target audience.

I look on the bright side though, it does attract the younger generation, and if that's what gets them into the hobby I'm okay with it.  They've time later to learn that a lot of the time the guys on TV are full of #$%^, or just selling product.  If nothing else its a middle of the road genre of shows I can watch with my sons.  The talking dogs and the stuff on YouTube gets old...

 

11/01/2020 8:46 AM  #7


Re: Gotta call BS...

josh-kebob wrote:

Had a weak moment yesterday morning as I enjoyed my first cup of java. Made the mistake of watching an episode of Fantom Works. The boys were messing with an AC system that required R12. When the customer came in for the bill, good ol Dan said, Do you know how hard it is to get R12 and what it costs? Why it's $500 to $1000 per pound! Gee Dan, I've got a few pounds of the stuff I'll sell you at half price.....and I see it for sale on Craigslist all the time.

Needless to say, I won't be tuning in again to that show...

Phantom Works is here in Norfolk and I’ve seen and spoken to Dan at a car show. He’s one of those guys that is your best friend if you’ve got a ton of money to spend but won’t give you the time of day if you just want to talk cars or ask a question. That said he has some very talented guys working for him and has a very successful business. Those guys are why I watch the show.


"anyone that stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty"Henry Ford
 

11/01/2020 1:42 PM  #8


Re: Gotta call BS...

As with ALL these shows, the contrived drama and they're ALWAYS under the gun time wise to "finish this build" and everything just falls off the car and magically installs with no issues is just BS. I wish just once they could make an hours long show revealing just how long this stuff actually takes and how many small problems have to be handled to get the final result. I guess that's why they call it "entertainment". And I can't stand Chip Foose's ugly wheels.....
 

 

11/01/2020 5:07 PM  #9


Re: Gotta call BS...

Ron68 wrote:

As with ALL these shows, the contrived drama and they're ALWAYS under the gun time wise to "finish this build" and everything just falls off the car and magically installs with no issues is just BS. I wish just once they could make an hours long show revealing just how long this stuff actually takes and how many small problems have to be handled to get the final result. I guess that's why they call it "entertainment". And I can't stand Chip Foose's ugly wheels.....
 

X2 on those wheels.  Every car doesn't need 22" rims!  I'm also not a fan of the 8-10 color paint jobs.  I hope those cars never get in a wreck because the whole car will end up having to be painted. 

And yeah, you can't work 90 hours a week every week.  You'd end up addicted to coke or meth, or have some kind of psychotic episode.  Maybe both...
 

 

11/09/2020 9:22 PM  #10


Re: Gotta call BS...

Ron68 wrote:

As with ALL these shows, the contrived drama and they're ALWAYS under the gun time wise to "finish this build" and everything just falls off the car and magically installs with no issues is just BS. I wish just once they could make an hours long show revealing just how long this stuff actually takes and how many small problems have to be handled to get the final result. I guess that's why they call it "entertainment". And I can't stand Chip Foose's ugly wheels.....
 

Roadkill Garage is slightly better about that.  They have no problem telling you it took them 3 months to do a small item of the build.  It makes me feel better when they show their extreme frustration about something rather than all the parts falling into place.

Last edited by bigred (11/09/2020 9:22 PM)

 

11/10/2020 3:52 AM  #11


Re: Gotta call BS...

David Frieburger probably shaped how I feel about cars and the hobby more than anyone else.  I used to read Car Craft and 4 Wheeler religiously, back when they were good magazines.  I was psyched to see him come to TV, and his lunatic cast of characters is also quite entertaining.  6BT Cummins in a Cadillac was probably my favorite episode. 

 

11/10/2020 6:50 AM  #12


Re: Gotta call BS...

anyone else notice a "new build" comes in, and in the back ground is a car that was finished and sent home last year.

 

11/10/2020 7:02 AM  #13


Re: Gotta call BS...

Yeah, the continuity is off on that too.  Episodes air out of chronological order. 

 

11/10/2020 7:48 AM  #14


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If you look this kind of templated show is everywhere. Take a look at the "home improvement/flip" shows (This Old House stands apart). Same thing, pretty much just an infomercial with some fake drama thrown in. You see the same rush, poor quality, dishonest timelines, brand pushing theme in them. Now they have cabin builds, off the grid builds, etc, etc. It's all just for brand placement and pushing consumers down to the store...

 

11/10/2020 9:10 AM  #15


Re: Gotta call BS...

At times you get some interesting ideas from those shows, but mostly, yes, they paint a picture of the construction industry that is largely inaccurate.  I think the decline of print media has led to this.  Prior to being mostly forgotten magazines started doing the same thing.  Its why I stopped reading them.  I couldn't see spending money for what was basically glorified advertisements.  They should be giving it to me for free, or honestly some of it was so bad they should have paid me to read it. 

 

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