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    8/14/2013 10:46 PM  #1

    drudy2013
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    replacing torque box

    while looking over my 67 coupe that I found a few months ago searching for a fuel leak I discovered a "missing" torque box....or at least a good place for one..Now I need the gangs expert guidenece..Has anyone ever done a tutorial on replacing one?Or know of a site that goes through the process? This is a 6 cyl. car that has a 289 in it now....It's the same one in the post "big block conversion"(which by the way, I received a BUNCH of feedback and ideas to which I'm very thankful) and now with this and some major floor rust discovered,I'm now considering a more modest build..Any place to go or advice?

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    8/15/2013 12:42 AM  #2

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    Re: replacing torque box

    Try http://www.restorationperformance.com/servlet/the-ALL/keyword/oemdiimustang-1967/start/331/total/473/Categories , They have all the sheet metal at resonable prices, as for the install  I've done floor pans firewalls hav't done one yet.

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    8/15/2013 5:28 AM  #3

    wsinsle
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    Re: replacing torque box

    Found this on Mustang Monthly web sight. You can go through their articles and see if there is anything else there.

    http://www.mustangmonthly.com/projectbuild/mump_0003_1966_ford_mustang_torque_box/

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    8/15/2013 6:06 AM  #4

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    Re: replacing torque box

    Just an FYI. I believe Ford did not start installing Torque boxes on both sides as standard practice until 1968. So in your 67 it is not "missing" per say, they just did not put them in. However, if you have to open it up to do floors anyway, having one on both sides is a "better idea".

     

    8/15/2013 6:46 AM  #5

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    Re: replacing torque box

    Yeah I just finished installing ah pair of them on my 66.http://fyi.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1056

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    8/15/2013 7:31 AM  #6

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    Re: replacing torque box

    As for replacing floors, you will get a much nicer job if you use a complete one-piece floor rather than just replacing the sides one at a time.  I just got through doing three of the four floors on my 66, and I wish I had just gone with the one-piece.

    The torque box will be alot easier with the floor out of the way first.

    There is a recent post on this forum about replacing (or rather installing new ones where there were none) torque boxes.

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    8/15/2013 9:21 AM  #7

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    Re: replacing torque box

    MustangSteve wrote:

    As for replacing floors, you will get a much nicer job if you use a complete one-piece floor rather than just replacing the sides one at a time.  I just got through doing three of the four floors on my 66, and I wish I had just gone with the one-piece.

    The torque box will be alot easier with the floor out of the way first.

    There is a recent post on this forum about replacing (or rather installing new ones where there were none) torque boxes.

     Yeah that was me that did the torque box thread .I posted ah link to that thread. http://fyi.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1056I also agree with doing the complete floor vs full sides. I also just completed full length sides . Twice as much welding + $$$. It would have bin much easier and cheaper to do the complete floor..

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    8/15/2013 12:49 PM  #8

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    Re: replacing torque box

    There's a lot of other stuff going on in this tutorial but it includes adding torque boxes to a '66 hardtop. This was done without removing the floor pan or toe boards and it looks like it worked out just fine.

    http://www.streetortrack.com/files/pictures/vert_inner_rockers/vert_inner_rockers.htm

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    8/15/2013 5:10 PM  #9

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    Re: replacing torque box

    LondonSteve wrote:

    Just an FYI. I believe Ford did not start installing Torque boxes on both sides as standard practice until 1968. So in your 67 it is not "missing" per say, they just did not put them in. However, if you have to open it up to do floors anyway, having one on both sides is a "better idea".

     
    OK....it does look awfully clean in that area,not like anything used to be there!! (except for about 25 tek screws sticking out from the inside) Why would there be something only on one side? I thought torque boxes on both sides were necessary for integrity...will there even be a driver side available aftermarket?   Thanks to everyone!!!

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    8/16/2013 2:23 PM  #10

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    Re: replacing torque box

    drudy2013 wrote:

    Why would there be something only on one side?

    Good question, they probaby just saved money by installing only one on the driver's side. IIRC, the 67 GT, the few they build with the 289HP, those with big blocks and the convertibles had torque boxes on both sides.

    drudy2013 wrote:

    I thought torque boxes on both sides were necessary for integrity...

    Agree, but Ford seems to have been of another opinion... maybe for the reason mention above.

    drudy2013 wrote:

    will there even be a driver side available aftermarket?

    Yes!
     

     

    8/17/2013 6:03 PM  #11

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    Re: replacing torque box

    LondonSteve wrote:

    Just an FYI. I believe Ford did not start installing Torque boxes on both sides as standard practice until 1968. So in your 67 it is not "missing" per say, they just did not put them in. However, if you have to open it up to do floors anyway, having one on both sides is a "better idea".

     
    I Think LondonSteve is correct. My 67 Mustang is a S code factory big block car. It only had one torque box. Adding one to the passenger side was a pain, but should be pay off in the end.

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    8/18/2013 7:24 AM  #12

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    Re: replacing torque box

    One more vote for a one-piece floor if you have the means. I chose to place some fairly stout subframe connectors in before we cut the old floor out. I was worried about sagging without the floor. As it turned out, this worked like a charm. I also put the one-piece convertible seat base in between the rockers just because it seemed so much more stout.  There may be a good reason not to use the convertible seat base, but I don't know what that would be. Worked great in this 65 fastback. The firewall wasn't bad while this far apart. I started off replacing driver side only, and after it worked so well, wished I hadn't cut it in two! Live and learn, I guess...



     

     

     

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