I've never owned a pair of shorty headers.   What would worry me is leaking around exhaust flange.  Unless you have a lift it
doesn't look like the easiest place to get in there to tighten the bolts down.   

Steve69

hummmmm seems to be missing brake line  WTF

Raymond, just pay the shipping and you can keep it until somebody else needs it.  All I ask is that it gets passed along when needed.

Should have added... Forum members are free to use it.  I just don't want it getting loaned out to a friend-of-a-friend where it tends to disappear into oblivion.  If a forum member has it, a simple post on the forum suach as WHERE IS IT? should suffice to get it returned or passed on to the next one who needs it.

You can adjust the pen depth so you can mark as much or as little as you wish to remove.  Bolts up the the original UCA pivot shaft bolt holes in the shock tower. Email me for info to get it delivered.

The tool only works on 65/66.  The 67-70 already has plenty of room.

DBROWN wrote:

What kind of headers did Tubo use? I am in the market for some headers.

Here's a great thread on headers from the old forum for 65/66 302 based cars - insert at discussion of Hedman 88406. I just bought a set of these for the 66/302 with basically the same setup that JEM is showing in the thread. They look like they'll fit with no issues and like JEM says are probably not the best for a high output motor but should work great for the rest of us.

http://members.boardhost.com/MustangSteve/msg/archive/1295653047.html

Thanks for the feedback Al.

So what gives?

I am doing a 427 Windsor with Dart block and AFR heads/ TCP rack and pinion in my 1966 Mustang Fastback. I am removing my 351 Windsor that used the Heddman headers.

I purchased the JBA headers that everyone has had good luck with and have found they do not fit well at all. The passenger side exhaust tube closest to the radiator is sitting against the engine wall-shock tower. It will not allow the motor to drop into the motor mount. The collector is also riding up against my bell housing. The driver side is also hitting the engine wall-shock tower.

Using Dart block/JBA 1653S coated headers/ 1966 style polyurethane motor mounts/ AFR heads 1458/ stock 1966 aluminum bell housing.

I am using a Dart big bore aluminum block (351W based) and ARF 205 heads in my 66.  The headers themselves have zero fitment issues.  They bolted right up and do not hit anything (except a too-long RF UCA mounting bolt that was remedied without modifying the headers)  The H pipe that I bought with the JBA complete 2-1/2" stainless exhaust system was a joke and there was no way it would fit, nor would the crossover tubes even come close to lining up with each other.

Shaving the shock towers was done because a previous owner had hammered the humps into a bent mess.  The mess did not show with the old Hedman headers, but with the better-fitting JBA's, it showed.  Mainly the flat areas give alot more room for the big wrench required to get to the UCA nuts.  The headers would have fit fine trimmed or not trimmed.

If anyone wants to use the template tool ,just let me know.

I rebuilt the H pipe and basically modified the entire bottom of the car to fit it.  The rest of the system fit perfect.

I have 66 with 5.0 and stock heads. I used the JBA ceramic shorties for the 5.0. I also have a set of repro 67 and newer motor mounts that JBA reccommended. I have about a sheet of paper gap between the passenger sided shock tower and the header tube. The driver side has more gap, maybe 1/2 inch or so. Although I used all the reccomended parts the header is too tight on the passenger side. Adjusable motor mounts or a BFH "BIG FINETUNING Hammer" will probably work, but after paying for parts that are said to work...... Too many variances from car to car and part to part I guess.