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    4/25/2023 2:09 PM  #1

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    1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    I had a customer call who has an S-code 390 68 Mustang who had put in the MS cable clutch setup.  He's ran across a problem.  The bellhousing is cast iron.  Has anyone found an aluminum bell housing that can be used with the 390 and a T5?

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    4/25/2023 3:15 PM  #2

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    So, what is the problem?   Welding the cable housing stop outside the bellhousing? He can always make a stop and bolt or rivet it to the bellhousing.

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    4/26/2023 5:11 AM  #3

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    Honestly putting a T5 behind a 390 is asking for trouble unless its built.  Unless he's never going to hammer on it.  Otherwise its a blown 3rd gear waiting to happen. 

     

    4/28/2023 6:00 AM  #4

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    Quick Time bellhousing makes one


    Sorry I missed the word aluminum, quick time is steel.

    Last edited by wsinsle (4/30/2023 8:39 AM)

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    5/06/2023 1:49 PM  #5

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    TKOPerformance wrote:

    Honestly putting a T5 behind a 390 is asking for trouble unless its built.  Unless he's never going to hammer on it.  Otherwise its a blown 3rd gear waiting to happen. 

    X2 on this. I don't see a T5 living long behind a 390 with any type of spirited driving. 

    My Quicktime came with a bung for a cable clutch..... it got cut off because it interfered with the headers. 

    I have heard of guys with aluminum FE bell housings that were 60's racing parts. Would likely be tough to find and expensive when you did.  

    John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
     

    5/06/2023 2:29 PM  #6

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    Look on ebay! Type in "390 Ford Aluminum" scroll about 3/4 down the page There is one for 250.00 + 30.00 shipping.

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    5/06/2023 2:50 PM  #8

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    That's cheaper than I thought it would be.

    The next thing to be aware of is the depth. The Mustang FE bell housings were shallower than some of the other car lines and trucks by about 7/16".  

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    5/06/2023 4:49 PM  #9

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    Bolted to Floor wrote:

    That's cheaper than I thought it would be.

    The next thing to be aware of is the depth. The Mustang FE bell housings were shallower than some of the other car lines and trucks by about 7/16".  

     
    Is there any way to compensate for the difference?

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    5/06/2023 7:10 PM  #10

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    Spacers are made to go between trans and bell if the bell is too shallow for the input shaft.
    Some guys with some machinist capabilities have shortened the input shaft.
    And to contradict the two previous options, others have talked about taking really good measurements to determine there was adequate room if the pilot bushing recess was deep enough for the pilot bushing to move deeper in the crank.

    John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
     

    5/07/2023 7:11 AM  #11

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    I would be real skeptical of machining an input shaft.  I can't say for sure on the T5, but a lot of gears and shafts in a manual trans are surfaced hardened.  The depth of that hardness is not very thick, and any appreciable machining would cut right through it rendering the part weaker than stock.  A stock T5 input shaft is only 10 spline and considered weak as is (upgrades go to a 26 spline for added strength).  If even contemplating such a move I would call Bob Hanlon and ask him if its a good idea.  He's a T5/Tremec guru, but he's also a machinist.  If anyone would know if this is safe it would be Bob. 

     

    5/07/2023 8:17 AM  #12

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    Re: 1968 Mustang with a 390 S-Code - Cast Iron Bell Housing

    The 390 toploader input shaft is the larger diameter big block size but the shaft is shorter than a small block as I recall.

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