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    8/28/2023 12:40 PM  #1

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    how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Hello,
    can someone point me to the right article/resource to help identify which balancer i have? I am not certain the year or age of my 302 but need to confirm if 28oz or 50oz balancer. I've read about the part numbers, but am not sure how to get to the part that helps me identify which one i have. Someone mentioned removing the starter should help make that part visible.
    thanks much
     

     

    8/28/2023 4:20 PM  #2

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Got a good picture?   I have several out in the shop we can compare to.

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    8/28/2023 4:20 PM  #3

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Removing the starter will reveal the block casing number, above that should be a 3-digit alpha-number 'date code'.
    Check out this link for decoding ... 
    https://www.mustangtek.com/FordDateDecoding.html

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    8/29/2023 8:23 AM  #4

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Thanks Steve - i do not have a picture. Is it behind the pulley under the water pump? I have zero experience with this part.
    BobE - thanks for the reference!
     

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    8/29/2023 12:05 PM  #5

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    This is a 50 ounce. There are other 50 ounce versions that look different, but this is most common. 

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    8/29/2023 12:08 PM  #6

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer




    Testing pic hosting.
    Something is malfunctioning

    Last edited by MS (8/29/2023 12:08 PM)

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    8/29/2023 2:24 PM  #7

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    MS wrote:




    Testing pic hosting.
    Something is malfunctioning

    Pic came through for me.
     

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    8/29/2023 3:23 PM  #8

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Ron68 wrote:

    MS wrote:




    Testing pic hosting.
    Something is malfunctioning

    Pic came through for me.
     

     
    I got it as well!

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    8/29/2023 3:24 PM  #9

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    I cannot see the pics like I normally can. Just URL shows up.

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    8/29/2023 3:53 PM  #10

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Here are my pictures of the area near the starter motor. Do these indicate 28oz or 50oz? Hope the pictures come through.

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    8/29/2023 3:55 PM  #11

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    i cannot see where my images were uploaded...hmmm.

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    8/29/2023 3:59 PM  #12

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Since i see an OL8 on my picture, seems it would be November 8, 1970 maybe, based on the reference above sent by BobE, but still unsure if i have 28oz or 50oz which is what I'm trying to determine.

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    8/29/2023 4:40 PM  #13

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    On a related note. Is this the rare ZERO BALANCE version?

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    8/29/2023 4:42 PM  #14

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    OL8 if correct date code, would be 28.  The 50 did not exist until 1980

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    8/30/2023 8:27 AM  #15

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Thanks Steve - appreciate the confirmation. I was trying to upload images, but could not for some reason. I was using the "Upload" button.

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    8/30/2023 9:05 AM  #16

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    You have to do the entire process to upload pics. Next time be sure to scroll down to the Add button
    I can only get it to work on my phone

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    8/30/2023 10:59 AM  #17

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Yeah it won't 'do' using the quick-post place. You hafta hit... Post reply... and THEN put the picture(s) in.

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    8/30/2023 11:33 AM  #18

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    MS wrote:

    You have to do the entire process to upload pics. Next time be sure to scroll down to the Add button
    I can only get it to work on my phone

    I was able to load pictures without an issue for a long time. Then recently I installed a new Security Software Suite on my PC. After that install I as not able to upload pictures on FYI. I am using Google Chrome. I assume that security software changed a setting in Google Chrome. I went into the Settings on Chrome and tried changing every setting that I thought could inhibit picture downloads without any luck. In Chrome I went into Settings and chose Reset Settings(sets all the settings back to default) and that solved my problem with FYI picture downloading. I did have to go back into Chrome and enable the Extensions again that were turned off. I did check every other setting and they looked good to me.
     

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    8/30/2023 2:58 PM  #19

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Thanks again - i was using Quick Post, and now trying Post-Reply and uploading pic. Lets see if that works.

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    8/30/2023 4:08 PM  #20

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    i can't post pics unless i go to incognito mode. 
     

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    8/30/2023 4:51 PM  #21

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    8/30/2023 4:52 PM  #22

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    wow - so private browser is what worked! Sheesh! Thanks so much for the tips. I was able to see that the casting is F1SE which is supposed to be a 1991 302 for a Thunderbird. Still have to find other casting numbers to confirm 28 or 50oz.

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    8/30/2023 5:04 PM  #23

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Can you see the counterweight on the flywheel?

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    9/05/2023 8:54 PM  #24

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    Not having much success with locating relevant numbers anywhere on the block. Not able to see any counterweight on the flywheel. The only numbers i can see are the ones in my picture i sent when i removed the starter motor. I have 3 bolts in the crank pulley, but don't think that is the best way to confirm a 28oz. I'm probably going to take a guess at 28oz and order the transmission kit based on that. If it turns out incorrect, then the shop will have to swap out whats needed. Thanks for the help here. Obviously this would be easier if the engine was out of the car.

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    9/06/2023 2:52 AM  #25

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    Re: how to identify 302 28oz or 50oz balancer

    A 91 roller engine will be 50oz. Does it have a conversion balancer on it?

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