Nice fix.

My first attempt was to modify the 66 Mustang PS bracket to fit the Saginaw pump.  Due to a large cast-in boss on the lower front of the pump, this would not work.  I tried some later model aluminum brackets and they would not work either.  The steel part of the brackets that goes to the water pump was for fitment on driver side pump inlet type pumps.  I cut and welded and finally came to the conclusion that the brackets provided with the saginaw pump would mount it down as low as possible.  It is an ugly bracket, but just needs some extra support.  I cannot believe ANYONE would mount a PS pump with just two bolts in the same plane.  That is just a very poor design which, I suppose, matches borgeson's sorry excuse for a lower column bearing.

I do prefer the bracket to mount the pump from the front of the pump like the Bronco brackets do, but I think mine will do the job.  I also plan to triangulate the rear of the thick bracket to the sleeve on the upper bolt on the head, plus weld the sleeves to the back of the bracket to make it one big piece.

That looks great! Should make it more solid with that backing.  

I added power steering to my 66 in 2005, so I guess I have been at “that age” for quite a while.
Mostly needed for backing into my space at car shows. Not needed for driving down the road. I, too, prefer manual steering and the associated road feel of drifting through a long sweeping turn while keeping the wheel in check with both hands. It is the low speed parking maneuvers that ruin it for me with manual steering.

MS wrote:

I added power steering to my 66 in 2005, so I guess I have been at “that age” for quite a while.
Mostly needed for backing into my space at car shows. Not needed for driving down the road. I, too, prefer manual steering and the associated road feel of drifting through a long sweeping turn while keeping the wheel in check with both hands. It is the low speed parking maneuvers that ruin it for me with manual steering.

 
EPAS will get you that and so much more.
Also gets rid of  expensive specialty PS pumps that don’t look Fordish, , hoses, cylinders and hacked up mounting brackets, under hood temperatures also go down dramatically.
With a turn of a small knob I get full assist for one finger parallel parking and when  the assist is turned down it gives all the road feel of a manual set up.
Mine is set up so it works KOEO.
YMMV🤪

Although I'm not looking for a new project, but I'm curious if anyone put EPAS on a 65-66 Mustang?  Just doesn't seem like there is enough room to fit under the dash. 

BobE wrote:

Although I'm not looking for a new project, but I'm curious if anyone put EPAS on a 65-66 Mustang?  Just doesn't seem like there is enough room to fit under the dash. 

I bought the kit from Flaming River for my 1966 with the tilt column. Everything came assembled. There were some wiring modifications to do. The motor is attached to the steering column on the left side and tucks up under the dash.

https://www.flamingriver.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=&q=FR40200M65BK+

I’m using a Chockostang rebuilt SMB-K 16-1 O/E steering box on my set up , it’s a solid no slop with all original Ford manual Pitman arm to spindle
Personally unless you are auto crossing I don’t see a need for a lower ratio although I know of some guys are going that exact route.
I guess you could go with Shelby quick steer stuff if you really needed it.

I am planning on using the Shelby quick steer pitman and idler arms on my Borgeson conversion in the 65 convertible.

KeithP wrote:

https://www.flamingriver.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=&q=FR40200M65BK+

Well, that project just went a few notches back on the "maybe" list! 
 

RPM, aka Bearing Bob wrote:

Rudi wrote:

I was wondering , is a quick steer Pitman arm available in 1 1/8” size?

 
Hey Rudi, hope you're staying warm up there. How much cash do you have in your EPAS mod, and how many hours?

 
I’m thinking of cutting up a heating blanket to sew up some long underwear, yeah Bob, damn cold up here in Canuckistan.
Cost wise I think i did it real cheap. The pick and pull Pontiac “Vue” epas was $125, the Bruno controller $50 and maybe another $50-75 for a mega fuse , wire and incidentals.
I never kept track of the time in hours but completed and installed it over the winter down time, I’d say Nov - March.
Having a lathe, mill and welder is almost a must doing it my way. I’ve seen easier ways of doing the modification but I like using my background skills and tools.
Pictures of what I got from the Poncho and some construction details.

Pulled from the car, $125.







Parts I used


What I bolted in for rpoof of fit

Bruno controller, $50  and Vue ECU that came with the EPAS.
I remotely mounted the ECU up under driver side kick panel.

Finished and ready for final install

I have a ton more pictures , too many to post here.
I tried to do the mod for as little cash outlay as possible because I didn’t know if I’d like how it worked, guess what . . .  I love it.

 

Last edited by Rudi (1/19/2024 3:13 PM)