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Got to a show only 10 minutes from the house - got parked and opened the hood - and the bottom of the radiator is leaking somewhere. The lower "tray" is all wet and it is dripping. I can't see a leak anywhere on the core fins on the front or back of the radiator. It is the stock radiator, which was re-cored 40 years ago, and I doubt that there is over 6000 miles on it. Anti freeze is clear and bright green - no rust in system.
My options are:
Pull it and have it repaired or re-cored (I was told that no one re-cores anymore) - or -
Replace it. If I do replace it, getting one that looks stock will be very expensive. I would rather keep the original look rather than going with an all aluminum looking one. It would be nice to have one with some additional cooling capacity though. I was in a long parade in July (Seattle Seafair Torchlight Parade) and it did eventually tend to get a bit hot. Stop and go type of parade - when stopped, shifted into neutral and revved the engine for additional cooling.
Any suggestions on which way to go? (engine is stock with power steering, no shroud, and no AC)
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There is a guy near me that may be able to help you. They used to have a long time radiator shop in the area. They still may. I haven't done any business with them in a long time, but they repaired many radiators for me in the past. I don't know what the current situation is, if he is semi retired or what. But he sells on Facebook marketplace now, and advertises he does custom radiator builds for not rods. Back in the day this was THE radiator shop to go to in my area. Google
Portell radiator.
Geary Portell on Facebook. Yes Geary, not Gary.
If you can't find anyone else to help, I bet they can.
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They make stick looking aluminium radiators, MS has one. Since your motor is a 351W, I'm not sure what a stock radiator is for that combo in 67. Whatever you get, I'd recommend a 24 inch radiator.
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If you don't mind cutting the radiator support panel, I'd copy MS's setup for your 65.
A light coat of black lacquer paint will hide it.
Which car are you bringing to the Bash?
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There are still a handful of old school radiator shops around the country, but you may have to ship it. Pretty sure there's still one about 5 minutes from my house, but I honestly haven't been there is a long time. Its definitely become a niche market, because all cars and trucks have used aluminum radiators with plastic end tanks for at least 20 years now, and those are not repairable.
If you are going to go to a larger radiator, or one with say 3 rows of tubes instead of 2, stock is already kind of out of the window. I would do as suggested and get an aluminum one that maintains a factory appearance. A coat of radiator paint later and you will be the only one who knows.
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I have an Aluminum Radiator from Summit, SUM-380461 (Manufactured by “Northern”), that works well. It is a 2-row, rows are 1inch wide, so it is bigger (deeper) than the original. And as TKO indicated, one can paint it black with radiator paint.
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I understand wanting that car to look original.
I am going with the 24” radiator in my 65 convertible because I want it to cool as best as it possibly can, plus still look like it COULD HAVE come that way.
Not with some square top ugly-ism of a radiator.
The 24” clamp-in radiator can be done where it looks factory. (Although a 67 factory). You can even buy a copper/brass 3 row core unit and install it with factory brackets and shroud. As long as you get the one with a properly formed top tank, copper or aluminum painted black) and use the correct top clamping system with rubber pads, it will blend in like it belongs there.
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rpm wrote:
They make stick looking aluminium radiators, MS has one. Since your motor is a 351W, I'm not sure what a stock radiator is for that combo in 67. Whatever you get, I'd recommend a 24 inch radiator.
Actually Bob, it's a 289 in the 65. My 68 has the 351W, and I have a custom made 3 row that fit the same hole as the original 6 cylinder radiator and I have never had an overheat in the 68 for 25 years. I still have the receipt for it - 6/22/99 - $379.01!
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Hey Ron, I ran across this on YouTube recently and the radiator shop is in Modesto, CA.
I’m sure you can find someone local at perhaps a truck / equipment repair shop.
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I have used Service Center Radiator here in Auburn, Ca, a number of times on my 4-core copper radiator. [url=tel:5308852282](530) 885-2282[/url]). They Have re-cored my radiator, and fixed tank leaks. I don't know if they do mail order. Give them a call.
A stock engine should be able to use a stock radiator, particularly up in cool Washington. My recollection is that the upper and lower tanks on your 2-core are wider than the core unit. You could re-core it to 3-core with no space problems. But my recommendation is to fix it. Easy-out, easy-in.
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Thanks folks for the responses. I will look them all over and decide what to do. The stock radiator I have in there now uses a four bladed fan that has about an inch clearance and no shroud, so there is that to consider for an upgrade too. Is there a fan with more blades that has the same diameter as the four bladed fan in case I want to install a shroud? Moving to a 24" radiator will require some sheet metal mods - I will have to think about that. Maybe getting a stock sized (and appearance) one may be the best option for me. I realize I will have to get a shorter fan spacer too. Lots to consider.
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Ron68 wrote:
rpm wrote:
They make stick looking aluminium radiators, MS has one. Since your motor is a 351W, I'm not sure what a stock radiator is for that combo in 67. Whatever you get, I'd recommend a 24 inch radiator.
Actually Bob, it's a 289 in the 65. My 68 has the 351W, and I have a custom made 3 row that fit the same hole as the original 6 cylinder radiator and I have never had an overheat in the 68 for 25 years. I still have the receipt for it - 6/22/99 - $379.01!
Ten-four. How many dang Mustangs do you own? 😁
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Anyone know about this one? ACP?
Looks like a bolt in, with possibly needing a shorter fan spacer. Any thoughts on this?
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Ron68 wrote:
Thanks folks for the responses. I will look them all over and decide what to do. The stock radiator I have in there now uses a four bladed fan that has about an inch clearance and no shroud, so there is that to consider for an upgrade too. Is there a fan with more blades that has the same diameter as the four bladed fan in case I want to install a shroud? Moving to a 24" radiator will require some sheet metal mods - I will have to think about that. Maybe getting a stock sized (and appearance) one may be the best option for me. I realize I will have to get a shorter fan spacer too. Lots to consider.
I have about six fans in my shop that need a new home. From flex fan to stock six blade with clutch to a shallow Mustang II fan. All ate 17”. I have new shrouds for the 24”. Fan would be garage point material for a forum member. Shroud is on swap meet page
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Ron68 wrote:
Got to a show only 10 minutes from the house - got parked and opened the hood - and the bottom of the radiator is leaking somewhere. The lower "tray" is all wet and it is dripping. I can't see a leak anywhere on the core fins on the front or back of the radiator. It is the stock radiator, which was re-cored 40 years ago, and I doubt that there is over 6000 miles on it. Anti freeze is clear and bright green - no rust in system.
My options are:
Pull it and have it repaired or re-cored (I was told that no one re-cores anymore) - or -
Replace it. If I do replace it, getting one that looks stock will be very expensive. I would rather keep the original look rather than going with an all aluminum looking one. It would be nice to have one with some additional cooling capacity though. I was in a long parade in July (Seattle Seafair Torchlight Parade) and it did eventually tend to get a bit hot. Stop and go type of parade - when stopped, shifted into neutral and revved the engine for additional cooling.
Any suggestions on which way to go? (engine is stock with power steering, no shroud, and no AC)
what year is and size radiator is in your car now?
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BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
Ron68 wrote:
Got to a show only 10 minutes from the house - got parked and opened the hood - and the bottom of the radiator is leaking somewhere. The lower "tray" is all wet and it is dripping. I can't see a leak anywhere on the core fins on the front or back of the radiator. It is the stock radiator, which was re-cored 40 years ago, and I doubt that there is over 6000 miles on it. Anti freeze is clear and bright green - no rust in system.
My options are:
Pull it and have it repaired or re-cored (I was told that no one re-cores anymore) - or -
Replace it. If I do replace it, getting one that looks stock will be very expensive. I would rather keep the original look rather than going with an all aluminum looking one. It would be nice to have one with some additional cooling capacity though. I was in a long parade in July (Seattle Seafair Torchlight Parade) and it did eventually tend to get a bit hot. Stop and go type of parade - when stopped, shifted into neutral and revved the engine for additional cooling.
Any suggestions on which way to go? (engine is stock with power steering, no shroud, and no AC)
what year is and size radiator is in your car now?
It is the original radiator that was re-cored 41 years ago. Single row, 16X17. Top of tank has C4ZE Y2 and W-MD 10 64.
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I think a 20 inch will fit without cutting.
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The 24 looks better than the originals that came in car.
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Ron68 wrote:
Got to a show only 10 minutes from the house - got parked and opened the hood - and the bottom of the radiator is leaking somewhere. The lower "tray" is all wet and it is dripping. I can't see a leak anywhere on the core fins on the front or back of the radiator. It is the stock radiator, which was re-cored 40 years ago, and I doubt that there is over 6000 miles on it. Anti freeze is clear and bright green - no rust in system.
You didn't say you did any troubleshooting so I have to ask whether you're sure it's' the radiator that's leaking? Could be the water pump or a hose or even coolant that came out the overflow because of an over-filled radiator..
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John Ha wrote:
Ron68 wrote:
Got to a show only 10 minutes from the house - got parked and opened the hood - and the bottom of the radiator is leaking somewhere. The lower "tray" is all wet and it is dripping. I can't see a leak anywhere on the core fins on the front or back of the radiator. It is the stock radiator, which was re-cored 40 years ago, and I doubt that there is over 6000 miles on it. Anti freeze is clear and bright green - no rust in system.
You didn't say you did any troubleshooting so I have to ask whether you're sure it's' the radiator that's leaking? Could be the water pump or a hose or even coolant that came out the overflow because of an over-filled radiator..
Water pump is dry, hoses are all tight and dry, no coolant in the overflow and it's hose is on tight, cap is tight and no fluid at the top of the radiator, no fluid on any of the cooling fins - just fluid at the bottom "tray"area.
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MS wrote:
I understand wanting that car to look original.
I am going with the 24” radiator in my 65 convertible because I want it to cool as best as it possibly can, plus still look like it COULD HAVE come that way.
Not with some square top ugly-ism of a radiator.
The 24” clamp-in radiator can be done where it looks factory. (Although a 67 factory). You can even buy a copper/brass 3 row core unit and install it with factory brackets and shroud. As long as you get the one with a properly formed top tank, copper or aluminum painted black) and use the correct top clamping system with rubber pads, it will blend in like it belongs there.
I agree. The ACP radiator in my 66 looks factory. I have to tell people it's upgraded.
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Ron68 wrote:
John Ha wrote:
Ron68 wrote:
Got to a show only 10 minutes from the house - got parked and opened the hood - and the bottom of the radiator is leaking somewhere. The lower "tray" is all wet and it is dripping. I can't see a leak anywhere on the core fins on the front or back of the radiator. It is the stock radiator, which was re-cored 40 years ago, and I doubt that there is over 6000 miles on it. Anti freeze is clear and bright green - no rust in system.
You didn't say you did any troubleshooting so I have to ask whether you're sure it's' the radiator that's leaking? Could be the water pump or a hose or even coolant that came out the overflow because of an over-filled radiator..
Water pump is dry, hoses are all tight and dry, no coolant in the overflow and it's hose is on tight, cap is tight and no fluid at the top of the radiator, no fluid on any of the cooling fins - just fluid at the bottom "tray"area.
My guess would be a failed solder joint between the tank and core.
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So, the decision has been made. I searched for a local shop that still does radiator repairs - the closest is about 25 miles away - $150-$175 to repair the radiator. That would solve the radiator problem, but I would still be subject to possible overheating with the single row and four bladed fan.
After discussing this with the Guru of Mustang cooling - MS - and his offering me a seven bladed factory style fan with clutch, I decided to go all out. He is sending me the fan - for a garage point - which I have noted on the Garage Point page - and I have ordered an ACP OEM style three row radiator for the 65. This should now preclude me from ever having even the faintest overheating problem during those long, hot parades we have in Seattle......
Thanks to all for your input - I will post a follow up after I complete the installation and ops check.
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Ron68 wrote:
...After discussing this with the Guru of Mustang cooling - MS - and his offering me a seven bladed factory style fan with clutch, I decided to go all out. He is sending me the fan - for a garage point - which I have noted on the Garage Point page - and I have ordered an ACP OEM style three row radiator for the 65...
Good call. Wish I had done the more correct looking install on my '65. However, the ugly square topped 24" aluminum fan, good shroud and MS reco'd 17" flex fan have kept the high compression 422 cid engine cool on 100* drives around the dirty 'No. For my SCJ I had the original radiator re-cored at a local (truck radiatior mostly) shop and it was $500 ish. All things considered the $200 rad Lt. Dan posted and a '67 style hold down would be a much better option than the very aftermarket looking $130 deal I have now. When I revert to better looking FoMoCo finned VCs (and spacers) that might just happen.
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