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3/06/2026 5:58 AM  #1


Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

I'm finally going to take the plunge this year and upgrade to the '94-'04 Cobra brakes on my '67.  I have a couple questions as I do my research.

1.) IIRC I read that the discs add some width to the axle over the drums, is that true?  If so, how much per side?

2.) I'm considering upgrading to a 9".  Is there any reason not to run a '65-'66 width housing in my '67 to get a rear that's 1" narrower per side (from what I've read)?  I'd like to move the wheels inboard a little to get them off the wheel openings.  I get rubbing some times due to the tire width I'm running.

3.) Any reason not to run the Torino housing ends?

4.) Any reason not to get away from the stepped down axle tubes?

Thanks in advance.

 

3/06/2026 7:56 AM  #2


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

1.  Yes, the disc width at the hub is around 0.25", the drums are typically less, I'd measyre the 67's drums to be sure.
2. Housing widths; from the data I have:
   65-66 - 57.25"
   67-70 - 59.25"
   Check out this link: https://m.roadkillcustoms.com/ford-9-inch-rear-end-widths-and-potential-donor-cars/
3. If this refers to the ‘small’ axle bearing (2.835” Diameter) vs. the “large” bearing (3.15”), IMO, if this is a street car, I wouldn’t worry about the using the small bearing.  I run the small bearing (28 spline), but I don’t do anything that would challenge it.  If you doing “serious” driving that may require bigger axles, you might want to go to the large bearing. 
4. I run the 3” housing ends (57-59, 9” rear).  I elongated the holes in the spring plate, and backed it up with a 0.25” plate with holes for the 3” tubes and haven’t had any issues.
 


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

3/06/2026 9:07 AM  #3


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

I would do all of those mods you mentioned Tom.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 5.0 GT40P heads, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

3/11/2026 9:41 AM  #4


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

Width is same except the drums are a little thinner than the rotors.  Use Dorman 610-441 studs. They are longer.
A 65-66 axle in a 67-70 is a straight bolt in and gives extra 1” on each side. I did that on my 68 coupe that Ramses now owns.
The Torino style housing ends are same as big bearing ends but use 3/8” bolts instead of 1/2” like older 3.150 bearing flanges.  You will need the Cobra brackets for the large bearing housing.  They have all the bolt patterns that were used including the correct holes for the Torino ends.
Using a tapered style axle housing requires use of a small bearing bracket set. If you go with non-tapered housing, you will need appropriate u-bolts and shock plates to fit the larger diameter. Your car may already have the correct ones.


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3/13/2026 5:37 AM  #5


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

Okay, I've got all the parts for my 9" center section ordered.  I'm still carefully weighing my housing options in terms of width.  I may end up having a custom width housing made.  The biggest thing is I don't want to run wheel spacers, so my choice are probably either a custom width housing or wheels with a custom backspacing (which may well be the cheaper option but I need to verify that).  

On the brakes, I'm going '94-'04 Cobra.  What hoses should I run?  What master cylinder?  

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3/13/2026 7:12 AM  #6


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

TKOPerformance wrote:

Okay, I've got all the parts for my 9" center section ordered.  I'm still carefully weighing my housing options in terms of width.  I may end up having a custom width housing made.  The biggest thing is I don't want to run wheel spacers, so my choice are probably either a custom width housing or wheels with a custom backspacing (which may well be the cheaper option but I need to verify that).  

On the brakes, I'm going '94-'04 Cobra.  What hoses should I run?  What master cylinder?  

If you’re going with non-power disc brakes, I have a used master cylinder that was for a 94/95 Cobra SVT, 15/16" bore, Raybestos #MC390269.  Let me know if you’re interested in it.  This MC was recommended by Baer Brakes when I installed their rear disc brake setup (20-years ago). 
IMO, this non-power braking did require a slightly higher pedal pressure, but it was not unmanageable. 
 
I'd use SS braided brake line hoses.

 


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

3/13/2026 4:43 PM  #7


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

Thanks for the offer, but I think I'm going with hydroboost for assist.  I already have a factory vacuum booster, but having extensively driven vehicles hydroboost I like the assist, and even though Crane swears the cam in my 347 will run vacuum brakes I think its better safe than sorry.  

On the brake lines I was more asking what year/model should I get them to fit?  I know the rears won't matter as I'll have to modify the brake lines, but the fronts?  Suggested in the instructions are '94-'98 Cobra lines, but they have 7/16" fittings on the ends and the factory Mustang lines are 3/8" I believe.  If the Cobra lines will otherwise work I bet Crown will make me a set of '94-'98 Cobra lines with the right fittings on the ends for a '67 Mustang.  I'm trying to avoid having to change the fittings on the hard lines or having to run adapters.  When I did this conversion on my '89 Maximum Motorsports makes lines that work.  

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3/13/2026 10:25 PM  #8


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

I used Inline Tube (Motorcity Musclecar on E-bay) flexible stainless DOT lines and were reasonably priced.

I used 3 piece lines per corner (Banjo, hose, inverted flare).

This selection allowed me options for clocking and change fittings without having to get a new flexible line.

This allows any future changes if desired or required.

Last edited by Nos681 (3/13/2026 10:40 PM)

 

3/14/2026 6:19 AM  #9


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

For the hydroboost MC, I installed is a 95-97 Explorer MC, 1-1/16" Bore, Raybestos #MC390269.  One feature I like is that the brake lines come out towards the inner fender.
Watch the length of the hydroboost system.  As I have removed the shock towers this was not an issue for me. 
 
In addition to Inline Tube, for plumbing hardware, you might want to look at, https://www.purechoicemotorsports.com/, they offer various brake line components and adapters.


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

3/14/2026 12:13 PM  #10


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

The stock cobra front hoses are 3/8 threads SAE on one side and 7/16” (but still 3/16” tube size) on the other.
I have some generic braided hoses on my 66 now, but used to have the original type.  All you have to do is use a 7/16” thread tube nut for 3/16” tubing. You will have to make new hard lines for the front as the original location does not work well, at least on 65-66.
Make custom hard lines for everything


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3/15/2026 3:49 PM  #11


Re: Rear Axle Width and MS Rear Brake Questions

I used the stock 03 rear braided cobra brake hoses. I mounted the the brackets for the lines to the inside part of the rear frame.

 

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