sal, are you really trying to say that your guy was losing the race..........

Dont get me started on Football!!  Godell has made it a sissy league w/ all his politically correct crap.  I cant tell you the last time Ive watched ESPN.

They need to change their name to National Association of Spec Car Automobile Racing. There was a time when they were actually based on stock cars running engines available to the public.(at least 500 of them) Boss 429's, Hemi's, etc....  Ah for the good ol days.

You boys might not have to worry about NASCAR much longer. Attendance continues to drop at the races. It's typical to see the stands half empty. Sponsorships are getting harder to find. Another ten years of this death spiral and the France family and Bruton Smith will have to retire to their money bins to count their billions.

Let me tell you a story I personally observed. About twelve years ago, some of the movers and shakers of Houston decided that having a NASCAR track and race (or two) a year would be a good economic shot in the arm and the aforementioned movers and shakers could make a lot of money. So these m&s found themselves a piece a land about twelve miles south of Houston that was big enough for a racing complex, was on a major highway to get the traffic in and out. They had renderings done that showed how wonderful their new racetrack with condos would be. They hired a PR firm to get the word out and got their pictures on TV and in the paper putting up the sign showing where their new racetrack would be. Only then did they actually contact the current reigning member of the France family to inform him that they were ready to build a track and join NASCAR, so would you please tell us the dates of our race(s) so we can publicize them and sell tickets. It was at that point they were told that the NASCAR inner circle built their own racetracks and only racetracks owned by the inner circle got race dates. There were no dates in the season open, so to assign a date to a new track, an existing track would have to give up a date, which was not going to happen. After this brutally applied piece of reality the Houston Movers and Shakers slunk back to their mega car dealerships to sell another 100,000 cars a year to further clog the roads around Houston. They didn't bother taking down their sign at the site of their racetrack folly. I drove past that sign about twice a week until the elements claimed it and it recycled to mush. And that is how NASCAR works.

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You always tell such happy and cheerful stories Hornman. 
I quit watching when it became all Danica all the time.

 HUMMM THATS exactly when I watch,,  she seems to get rear ended and spun out weekly WAIT!!  Her car gets rear ended and spun out weekly    

I was there at Talladega. I want to tell you the stands were full of PO'ed fans.
Championships have become farces, staged for TV revenue, with no regard to actual fans.
G W C format Sux.

Tubo in Talladega

Kind of like if Mansfield, TX decided to create a new NFL football stadium and team, called the Hornmen.  They would need to get in with the in crowd or they would have no one to play against other than the Midlothian Panthers high school team.  I don't think you can just invite yourself in when there is a major organization with scheduled events.

I quit following NASCAR in 1979 after sitting in the infield watching the same exact five cars follow each other in the same exact order for 400 miles.  Prior to that I worked part time as a fireman at the College Station track.  I put out a fire in Bobby Unser's car once.

 This may play right into your theory, but it was pretty sweet to see Kenseth pyle drive Lagano into the wall after Lagano took out Kenseth a couple weeks ago.