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7/12/2017 7:18 PM  #1


What Insurance?

rpm wrote:

HudginJ3 wrote:

I bought classic car insurance for it.  Since then I've been driving it every place the insurance will let me.

I think if be looking for a different insurance company.

Mine is just about ready to be a daily driver. Bought it in 1989, took it down to bare metal in 99. Been a slow road back since then.
 

 

The statement by "rpm" has been bugging me so I thought I'd ask on a different thread......
The companies that I have priced all have restrictions of some sort And some use stated value and some require an appraisal and some limit the value. What are the limitations and restrictions of your classic car insurance? The company I have limites my stated value and my restrictions are I can't drive it to work and my kids can't drive it till they are 35. I didn't think that was unreasonable driving in Dallas traffic. Is it?


70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

7/12/2017 9:33 PM  #2


Re: What Insurance?

I don't have collector/classic car coverage, yet. My 69 currently has the typical actual cash value coverage thru the Auto Club of Southern California with collision, comprehensive, under and uninsured motorist, medical, towing, yada yada yada. ACSC doesn't offer collector coverage with stated value on cars under construction, like mine.

I spoke with two collector car agents from ACSC at a car show about a year ago. The Auto Club offers collector car coverage for stated value, for garaged cars with no mileage or destination restrictions. When my car is finished, one of the two agents will inspect and value my car. They require a Lo Jack system to be installed in the car. I'm a couple of months out from switching my coverage.

I have no proof of other carriers who don't restrict miles or type of driving other than what I read on Mustang forums where folks say they aren't restricted. Having read so many posts of folks claiming no restrictions, I tend to think other carriers offer unrestricted miles and type of driving policies. However, having been an insurance adjuster for 18 years I do know that most folks, including me, don't read their policies.

I do hope you can find coverage which allows you to fully enjoy your Mustang.

Bob


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

7/13/2017 5:16 AM  #3


Re: What Insurance?

Mine is insured through State Farm, along with my other vehicles and my house.  There are no restrictions.  The other big thing to think about is how the car is valued and what their policies would be concerning repairs.  Its worth spending a little money to get the car properly appraised so that value can be used, rather than some ambiguous blue book value, etc. 

I know many people are also quite happy with Hagerty, which you should be able to get through Allstate. 

 

7/13/2017 6:27 AM  #4


Re: What Insurance?

I use Grundy, very low restrictions, stated value ( they raise yearly) and no cost trip insurance (bash runs). I think I pay around $300 year for stated value of $30k.  

 

7/13/2017 7:18 AM  #5


Re: What Insurance?

I have Hagerty.  Stated value $30k but to get the lowest premium there are restrictions.  Must be registered as a historic vehicle, limit driving to car shows, parades and repairs, no drivers under 25, and stored in a garage.  Even with those limits I pay around $600 per year which is quite a lot more than other states due to Michigan's out of wack no fault insurance.

 

7/13/2017 7:55 AM  #6


Re: What Insurance?

Novi Rick wrote:

I have Hagerty.  I pay around $600 per year which is quite a lot more than other states due to Michigan's out of wack no fault insurance.

I think I'd be looking for another State in which to live. 

Sorry, I could resist. And I'm obviously kidding being from California.

Bob
 


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

7/13/2017 1:52 PM  #7


Re: What Insurance?

Well, the license plate is supposed to restrict my driving as stated, but I manage to find a car show pretty much any day of the week.  So I get to drive it as much as I can.  I even "commute" to work on occasion but the police don't seem to mind even with the historical plate.  The good news is that the plate is good for 10 years!

I drove through Bakersfield back in May.  It was hot as hell!  Wouldn't want a steady diet of hot like that! LOL

 

7/13/2017 2:22 PM  #8


Re: What Insurance?

Hagerty on 2 Mustangs,  in Illinois.   Policies and coverage vary by state, from what I understand.  Hagerty discounts the rate with the understanding that you are not commuting daily in your classic.  My agent insists that I can drive them anytime, anywhere, including to work, as long as it is occasional, and not on a daily basis.  In addition to cruise ins, I drive to church, restaurants, hardware stores, anywhere, anytime.  I submitted pics, and since the amount of agreed value of each car is not pushing any limits, the policy was written without appraisals.  They have reviewed the driving records of my wife and 23 & 25 year old sons, and all are permitted to drive both cars.  Both sons are actually listed in the policy, by name. I do have to annually prove that there are 4 insured other daily driver cars in our household.  The unrestored 65 GT FB rate is under $300 per year, including Hagerty's premier coverage, that guarantees a flatbed tow truck with soft straps, if necessary.  The 66 coupe in primer is $125 for lower agreed value and no road service.  When I sent pics of the 66, I got a phone call from Hagerty to discuss the car.  They recognized the 32V supercharged engine and roll cage and asked if it was street legal (it is) and they told me that I would need to buy their "track day" coverage if/when it was in competition.  I am covered for driving and cruising, but NOT racing.  I appreciated the heads up, as it will get some autocross time, at some point.

Thankfully, I have never had a claim, so I cannot speak for their service, but my agent (who provides excellent service) says they are very good to work with, if you have to......

 

7/13/2017 4:12 PM  #9


Re: What Insurance?

I have American Collector insurance on my 67 convert, stated value of $15,000 with no deductible for collision and comp. It's limited to 2500 miles a year and has to be kept in a garage. Any drivers have to be over 25 and have had their license for 10 years. I pay $153 a year for it. I know $15k seems low, but this is a coupe to convertible conversion and is just not worth as much as a "real" one. 


It's easier to add horsepower than it is to lose weight.
 

7/13/2017 4:22 PM  #10


Re: What Insurance?

Novi Rick wrote:

I drove through Bakersfield back in May.  It was hot as hell!  Wouldn't want a steady diet of hot like that! LOL

Neither would I. Ya, early May was hot this year and we hit 104° on the 4th. We get about 30 days a year that hit 100°.  With humidity rarely higher than the low teens when hot it's bearable. You gotta try to get things to rust here.

Called my agent buddy at the Auto Club today. He said the stated value policy is around $150-$160 a year as opposed to the $300 I'm paying now, but I'll lose the $100 25% discount for multiple vehicles for some reason. He'll come out when I call him to take pics of the car and send them to underwriting with a stated value I pick. Underwriting will compare my car to the NADA guide to make sure my value is in line.

Bob
 


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

7/14/2017 4:51 AM  #11


Re: What Insurance?

Redvert67 wrote:

I have American Collector insurance on my 67 convert, stated value of $15,000 with no deductible for collision and comp. It's limited to 2500 miles a year and has to be kept in a garage. Any drivers have to be over 25 and have had their license for 10 years. I pay $153 a year for it. I know $15k seems low, but this is a coupe to convertible conversion and is just not worth as much as a "real" one. 

What its "worth" isn't what you should be basing the insured value on.  The value needs to represent what it would cost to replace.  If the car was a total loss could you buy a comparable car for $15,000.  My gut says no.  Insurance needs to be looked at from a worst case scenario standpoint. 
 

 

7/14/2017 7:07 AM  #12


Re: What Insurance?

I have had a great experience with State Farm. I have never had any problems ever with them.


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 

7/14/2017 5:15 PM  #13


Re: What Insurance?

Stevo wrote:

I have had a great experience with State Farm. I have never had any problems ever with them.

Me too.  My agent is a great guy, and I can reach him any number of ways if needed.  I had a homeowner's claim due to a tree falling on my house.  He offered to come over at 10:00 the night it happened in the rain to look at it if I needed him to.  Instead he came out the next morning, claim was processed quickly, and I had a check within 5 days.  Found a bit more damage once we got everything cleaned up, wrote a brief summary of that, and had another check for the balance shortly thereafter. 

This is why I'm a big proponent of dealing with a real person face to face for insurance vs. using internet companies, etc.  You may pay a little more in premiums, but when something happens they care about making it right.  They take the time to explain the various coverages you need to carry as well, and want to make sure you are fully covered in case something were to happen.  To me that's worth another 10% a year in premiums. 
 

 

7/14/2017 7:06 PM  #14


Re: What Insurance?

TKOPerformance wrote:

Stevo wrote:

I have had a great experience with State Farm. I have never had any problems ever with them.

Me too.  My agent is a great guy, and I can reach him any number of ways if needed.  I had a homeowner's claim due to a tree falling on my house.  He offered to come over at 10:00 the night it happened in the rain to look at it if I needed him to.  Instead he came out the next morning, claim was processed quickly, and I had a check within 5 days.  Found a bit more damage once we got everything cleaned up, wrote a brief summary of that, and had another check for the balance shortly thereafter. 

This is why I'm a big proponent of dealing with a real person face to face for insurance vs. using internet companies, etc.  You may pay a little more in premiums, but when something happens they care about making it right.  They take the time to explain the various coverages you need to carry as well, and want to make sure you are fully covered in case something were to happen.  To me that's worth another 10% a year in premiums. 
 

I could not agree more! Nothing beats having a real live agent to deal with. I just love State Farm. Could not speak more highly of them!


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 

7/15/2017 7:15 AM  #15


Re: What Insurance?

Like TKO & Stevo, I also have State Farm and am pleased with their agent, coverage and costs (auto & home).  I did request that they take some pictures but they said it wasn't necessary as they had looked at the car.  However, a few weeks after issuing the policy the agent called me and asked me to stop by to take some pictures.
But this does remind me to review my Mustang's policy and update as necessary.


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

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