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8/28/2018 8:53 PM  #1


Wiring harness options

Hey guys,
I’m looking for a company who makes quality wiring harnesses. I’m interested for my 67 Mustang, but also for my buddy who purchased a 1969 F100 last week.   
I know there are wiring harnesses and then there a wiring harnesses. Can y’all steer me in the right direction?


Owner of MustangSteve - 1967 Mustang Coupe 302, 2005 Mustang GT
 

8/28/2018 8:59 PM  #2


Re: Wiring harness options

If you aren't making any changes, probable the easiest to install will be a factory type re-pop harness. They make one for your car, but I don't know about the truck.


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

8/28/2018 9:13 PM  #3


Re: Wiring harness options

Absolutely, even if you are making changes.  Its better to start with a clan reproduction factory harness and modify it from there.  You can add an auxiliary fuse block if you need more circuits.  All the aftermarket "hot rod" type harnesses require you to terminate EVERYTHING.  Royal PITA, and by no means "painless". 

 

8/28/2018 9:20 PM  #4


Re: Wiring harness options

So most manufacturers make a relatively quality harness then?


Owner of MustangSteve - 1967 Mustang Coupe 302, 2005 Mustang GT
     Thread Starter
 

8/28/2018 9:28 PM  #5


Re: Wiring harness options

I’m in the middle of installing a “Painless” harness in my ‘65 fastback. I bought the harness in 2007 and listened to one of my Hot Rod buddies before I discovered this forum. As TKO mentioned, the only thing terminated is the headlights. All the wires are marked but the instructions are vague. There is a four part video on You Tube that’s a little helpful But if I had to do it over again, I’d probably go the factory route.

Last edited by Mark in CA (8/28/2018 10:05 PM)

 

8/28/2018 11:04 PM  #6


Re: Wiring harness options

I'm extremely happy with the job and price that Randy at MidLife  did refurbishing my original harness.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

8/29/2018 4:31 AM  #7


Re: Wiring harness options

I purchased all my harnesses from Mustangs Unlimited, and found the quality to be as good as original.  I replaced all the wiring from the taillights to the headlights.  The only portion of the harness I've actually modified is the engine gauge feed.  Otherwise I've just supplemented by adding some additional wires as needed and using some tricks to make it all blend together and appear factory.  My method has been to modify only the small harnesses that are relatively cheap and easily replaced if I ever decided to go back to 100% stock.  When I added aftermarket gauges for example I simply modified the cluster harness to work with the new gauges.  It stays plug and play, and there was no need to hack up an underdash harness costing over $600. 

I would recommend at a minimum that you add relays for the headlights. 

 

8/29/2018 7:54 AM  #8


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8/29/2018 8:51 AM  #9


Re: Wiring harness options

Well Mike,  it all depends on what direction you are going with the vehicles. If you want to stay stock go with NPD's offerings or refurbishing the originals by Randy, previously mentioned. These are mostly plug and play and the easiest fastest method.    <http://midlife66.com/harnesses/ >

 If you plan on adding a lot of electrical accessories, pwr windows, door locks,  A/C, fans, EPAS,  battery relocation, etc,  go with AAW model and year dedicated rewire kits. AAW is not plug and play and a lot more work.
 I used AAW and was very pleased with the results, these kits will bring your wiring up to modern standards. Their product support and quality is second to none.
 AAW does not support the O/E externally regulated alternators on the early Mustangs, you have to go 3-G or one wire.

 As far as Painless is concerned, from what I have seen and heard  - - -   they are not

Last edited by Rudi (8/29/2018 8:54 AM)


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

8/29/2018 10:17 AM  #10


Re: Wiring harness options

The lack of plug and play is what kills it for me on those harnesses.  Every time you have to terminate a wire you have to address it somehow.  Either you have to splice in a factory connector, have to reuse factory connector bodies and have the right terminals and tools to do factory style terminals that plug into those bodies, or convert everything over to some kind of universal connector format.  First, that's a lot of work.  Second, it removes originality from the car.  I understand some guys don't really care about that, but for me I want my car to have a certain look; that it could plausibly have been built that way from the factory.  Its at least an attempt at the seamless blending of stock and modified pats.

When adding new circuits I find its easier to just leave the stock stuff alone and go right to an auxiliary fuse box, or fuse individual circuits and build harnesses for them.  This allows the stock wiring to run the stock parts of the car unhindered and unmodified (making troubleshooting easier in the future), while providing whatever is needed for the updates I've done.  It also means I don't have to waste my time terminating a bunch of things that could already be done at the place making the harness, and cuts my workload WAY down.  I rewired my whole car with factory harnesses in about two nights.  That project stretches to weeks if I'd of had to terminate everything, and the whole time the car is not driveable. 

 

8/29/2018 12:19 PM  #11


Re: Wiring harness options

this place makes most of the harness's for the retail houses.  They can custom make anything

https://www.ynzyesterdaysparts.com/

 

8/29/2018 5:01 PM  #12


Re: Wiring harness options

Don, thanks for that link!  They've got some good stuff (bullet connectors and correct heat sleeving Ford used just to name two ones commonly needed and hard to find).  I'm storing that website for future use. 

 

8/29/2018 9:49 PM  #13


Re: Wiring harness options

Rudi wrote:

Well Mike, If you plan on adding a lot of electrical accessories, pwr windows, door locks,  A/C, fans, EPAS,  battery relocation, etc,  go with AAW model and year dedicated rewire kits. AAW is not plug and play and a lot more work.
 I used AAW and was very pleased with the results, these kits will bring your wiring up to modern standards. Their product support and quality is second to none.
 AAW does not support the O/E externally regulated alternators on the early Mustangs, you have to go 3-G or one wire.

 As far as Painless is concerned, from what I have seen and heard  - - -   they are not

I have to reiterate what Rudi wrote, Merican Auto War iz Purdy dang good

Tubo
 


If it ain't broke, I haven't modified it Yet
 

8/29/2018 10:22 PM  #14


Re: Wiring harness options

Such great suggestions guys. I’m also liking the sound of TKOs arguement. Go stock and then do supplementary wiring harnesses for aux stuff with a secondary block.


Owner of MustangSteve - 1967 Mustang Coupe 302, 2005 Mustang GT
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8/29/2018 10:35 PM  #15


Re: Wiring harness options

mustangermike wrote:

Such great suggestions guys. I’m also liking the sound of TKOs arguement. Go stock and then do supplementary wiring harnesses for aux stuff with a secondary block.

I agree completely with TKO.
 


Original owner - 351w,T-5, 4whl disks, power R&P
 

8/31/2018 9:55 AM  #16


Re: Wiring harness options

In my case I could not consciously stay with the 50 year old wires that had been hacked up by a guy that tried to install an alarm system. All the plugs and sockets had hardened, green corrosion going down under the insulation on the wires, lack of relays that take the strain off the old switches, no circuit breakers, corroded old fuse box with archaic glass fuses, etc.
 Just for reliability's sake I chose AAW's kit that came with a bank of relays an all new switches. 
 My only regret was not spending the extra money for Weather Pac connectors instead of the supplied.GM style plugs and sockets.
 As for tying the car up for the mod, it was not an issue since our winters are not friendly for driving a classic car.
 

Last edited by Rudi (8/31/2018 9:57 AM)


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

8/31/2018 10:26 AM  #17


Re: Wiring harness options

The AAW 65-66 Mustang kit has the Original Mustang dash light & switch connectors Pre-wired and connected with the rest of the harness flowing from the new fuse box. This made wiring My 65 2+2 so much easier, in many cases subsystems I had added (like Power Windows) were provided for in the new harness. Thus saving the headache of figuring out how to and then modifying an original harness.

Tubo


If it ain't broke, I haven't modified it Yet
 

8/31/2018 4:38 PM  #18


Re: Wiring harness options

I just took a gander at the AAW kit, and I must say, a lot of it is terminated already with the right connectors.  It looks like a much better kit than the Painless kits I've used in the past.  Cost also looks to be less.

Weatherpack connectors are GM FYI.  I've used them for years, but they do have one drawback: they're huge.  This can make routing the harness and pulling it through holes tough unless you terminate it after, and then if you ever had to remove it you'd have to depin the connectors.  In exposed applications though they are great because they are immune to corrosion if you pack them with dielectric grease and essentially 100% waterproof.  Having worked on a lot of GM stuff over the years I have all the tools to make them up.  Another drawback is they aren't cheap, not that any dedicated OE style connector is, but the cost adds up even on small projects. 

 

9/01/2018 7:15 PM  #19


Re: Wiring harness options

I just finished installing an AAW kit in my 64.5. It is a very comprehensive kit, the directions and diagrams are excellent and it was very easy (if not a little time consuming) to install. Much to my surprise, when I hooked up the battery to test it, everything worked, including the glove box light. I would use an AAW kit again without hesitation.

 

9/03/2018 2:02 PM  #20


Re: Wiring harness options

I will second rpm 's recommendation of mid life harness , They built a instrument cluster harness for me , It replaces the printed circuit plastic one that is one a 71-73 mustang , Fantastic piece they built , Also helped me with the under dash harness repair.


If its worth doing do it right !
 

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