Have you checked to see if timing chain didn't jump, pull number one plug go to top dead center compression stroke and see that rotor in dist. lines up to number one cylinder.

so if you were on compression stroke and your pointer was on zero and dist was set back to number one I guess chain didn't jump, did you check to see if plug wires are in correct order always look for simple things first.

Gaba wrote:

now I do not know where the valves were at .. AT 0 , or where the piston was at.. I know that I felt puff, I backed the engine manually to 0 and put distributor in ..

hi , you can remove the valve cover and chech the nr 1 piston valve , rockers and pushrod  in which position are , when you are manually cranking .  
when the exaust valve is coming up , you are close to tdc and look at mark on damper

Old gas tank - - - -  clogged fuel filter?

Rudi wrote:

Old gas tank - - - -  clogged fuel filter?

gas tank 5 years old .. and fuel filter checked clean.. I have fuel flow , dont know the pressure but I have fuel flow

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TKOPerformance wrote:

Really sounds like a timing issue.  I'm with Alessandro on pulling the valve cover.  Is it a flat tappet cam?  Maybe it went flat on you.  What heads/rockers?

what heads.. ? 302 heads LOL ... no idea what kind. what rocker  again sir.. sadly No idea.. STOCK kind is all I know.

the cam specs I have written somewhere from when I got it measured. but thats it.

TKOPerformance wrote:

Absolutely should pull a valve cover then.  What I'm getting. at is what's holding. the rockers down?  I've seen pedestal mount rockers break the pedestal bolt.  I've seen pressed in studs pull out.  I've yet to see a screw in stud fail, but anything's possible.  A bent pushrod is also a possibility. 

It sounds like the distributor is good, the timing. chain is good, yet there's still a timing issue.  That pretty much. leaves something in the valvetrain being amiss.  I think I'd be tempted to check TDC with. a piston stop just to be sure the chain was good and/or that the balancer and pointer were correctly matched. 

Wouldn’t a mechanical timing change cost compression? Just asking not questioning your knowledge

Could you lead me to a piston stop that works on my motor ? (‘69 302)

Also the balancer has a key that aligns it on the crank and only goes on one way.

Bent pushrod could have happened (has happened before) I’ll pull the covers , but usually with that came tons of noise .. I’ll post what I find next

Do tell if I would loose compression if my mechanical valve timing is off my any chance..?

I also suggested prior to the post to pull passenger valve cover to see if timing events are happening at the right time.
Maybe after EVERYONE ELSE suggested the same thing, you can try that !!!

Gaba wrote:

I haven’t touched the car at all since we talked Steve !!! Lol why you gotta be like that!!

I just posted so everyone could go through it with me :D

Hi gaba , 
if you havent touch the car and before was running there are few things involved Gas ( holley float level , or too much or too low gas sending pressure , something clogged or some else)  
Or ( very probably ) something went wrong on distributor insertion . 
I have turn 180 degrees many times before understand the exact point . 
I made wet the spark plug many times trying to run and this wont help you in this moment. 

You need to be sure to start with piston nr 1 tdc , and the easyest solution is to see from heads which position is exaust valve . 
when you will be sure about it , put your eyes on spark plug. 
 

Do you have another ignition coil that you could try?
I would start by simple...

What ignition system do you have ?
Could be capacitor also.

well opened up the valve covers yesterday "hoping" to find a bent push rod or a rocker off the valve stem ( happened before twice) , or anything obvious.. that was a negative . i should be happy but I am not LOL cause this is a gremlin.. LOL

Now that the valve covers are off .. I will figure out true TDC on the piston first, mark it, then see if at TDC both valves are closed and not opening prematrely or too late..

Also I somehow will check if all the valves are moving up and down and none is barely moving (should I crank the motor with the starter for that..? or hand? cranking with a starter may make a bit of an oily mess .... right?

If you have an old valve cover ... chop the top out of it and use it to control the oil splash.