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2/04/2021 5:43 PM  #1


Idle Air Control question

I noticed a drilled hole in the throttle blade on the aftermarket throttle body.
Appears to have been done by previous owner, not made that way.
It’s an Edelbrock/BBK model with both names on it.
I had plugged the hole in order for the IAC to work correctly, especially when following prescribed setup.

Only thing I can think if, is previous owner of throttle body had a radical setup that required additional air bypass in order for engine to idle properly....this engine is stock.

Just trying to understand other peoples modifications.
Throttle body/EGR spacer was in a box of extra parts when car was purchased.

 

2/04/2021 5:49 PM  #2


Re: Idle Air Control question

Does it idle okay now.  If so leave that hole plugged.  I had Idle Air issues with the  XE 266 cam and made an adjustable bypass valve similar to what Ford had the dealers installing when the IAB would get crudded up.  I'm hoping to do without that with the new, milder, cam.

 


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2/04/2021 5:56 PM  #3


Re: Idle Air Control question

The correct way to get a radical engine to idle is to adjust the IAC bypass like BB said, and with tuning.  Only a hack would drill a hole in a throttle blade in an EFI application.  But its a BBK TB, so it'll probably start leaking around the shaft fairly soon anyway.  When it does don't buy anything other than an Accufab.  Best TBs made. 

 

2/05/2021 9:11 AM  #4


Re: Idle Air Control question

Drilling a hole in the blade is a "homebrew" remedy as opposed to buying this https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-idle-air-control-adjuster-5-0l-1986-1993/p/HW2451/

 

 

2/05/2021 3:30 PM  #5


Re: Idle Air Control question

Would IAC be removed with home-brew design?

How would ECM react to its removal?
Could it be located elsewhere to cleanup engine compartment?

Have to admit, design and placement of IAC and EGR could have been done better.
Hot Rod ideas swirling around with the snow in my head, eyes, and ears.

Just trying to understand “what if”

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2/05/2021 5:16 PM  #6


Re: Idle Air Control question

Nos681 wrote:

Would IAC be removed with home-brew design?

How would ECM react to its removal?
Could it be located elsewhere to cleanup engine compartment?

Have to admit, design and placement of IAC and EGR could have been done better.
Hot Rod ideas swirling around with the snow in my head, eyes, and ears.

Just trying to understand “what if”

You'd still keep the IAC you're just allowing more air in. The older EECs are really just looking for the commanded idle RPM value as long as it sees a closed TPS reading which is very basically TPS not moving and below the voltage breakpoint. Long way of saying *most likely* it wont do anything. I've seen remote IACs but have never messed with one. Here's an Accufab adapter https://accufabracing.com/idle-air-control-relocation-adapter-ford
 

Last edited by Raymond_B (2/05/2021 5:19 PM)

 

2/06/2021 6:57 AM  #7


Re: Idle Air Control question

Its the same thing some guys would do by cracking the throttle blade a tiny bit on setups that were adjustable.  The problem is that you are again trying to trick the ECM, when its better that the ECM knows whats going on so it can run the engine properly.  You can adjust the idle RPM and the IAC steps in the programming to get a radical cam to idle more smoothly and not have to worry about it stalling.  Over the years guys came up with all kinds of work arounds to avoid ECM tuning, but ECM tuning is and always was the best way to get the engine to do what you want.  All the work arounds involve trickery.  The system works best when you aren't tricking it.  Years ago the only way to tune was to go to a tuner, which were few and far between.  Today with the right setup anyone can tune the EECIV.  There are voluminous online resources to help, and many of us have tuning experience too. 

You can't remove the IAC.  The IAC exists to maintain an idle under all circumstances.  When the AC comes on for example the IAC steps up to make sure the engine doesn't stall.  It does the same thing when you push in the clutch and coast to a stop.  Anytime there's a load placed on the engine and it has to idle, or the throttle slams shut unexpectedly; that's when the IAC has to do its thing. 

 

2/06/2021 10:48 AM  #8


Re: Idle Air Control question

Looks like it will stay in factory location for now.
Didn’t know that adapter existed.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge guys, appreciate it.

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