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2/10/2021 7:08 PM  #1


Distributor installation

I have a 1965 289 auto. I have purchased a new distributor to install.  Bee a long time since installing one. 
I know I need ti get to tdc on number one which points the rotor to the back of the engine. Question is once finding tdc do I need to set the timing to 12 degrees before tdc before dropping the distributor in place?

 

2/10/2021 8:00 PM  #2


Re: Distributor installation

Naw, just get it close, fire it up and put a timing light on it.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/10/2021 8:42 PM  #3


Re: Distributor installation

Remember...there are TWO TDCs, EXH and COMPRESSION.  You need to be at TDC Comp on No. 1.  Then drop the dizzy in so that when it's seated the rotor is pointing at #1.  Then, like BB2 says have the dizzy set bold just loose enough that you can turn the dizzy by hand.  Have the timing light all ready to go, start it and adjust the timing...vac disconnected of course...and lock down the dizzy.  Hook up the Vac.  You're good to go.

BB1
 


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2/11/2021 1:00 AM  #4


Re: Distributor installation

Does the stock dissy need ported or full vac? I have always run full vac on my chevys,  but didn't know if fords like it or not?
Chris
 


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2/11/2021 5:35 AM  #5


Re: Distributor installation

Verfiy #1 TDC compression stroke.  I don't trust old factory parts (balancer marks, timing pointers, etc.); there's too much chance something moved or was changed.  The best way to verify TDC is with a piston stop.

After that I set it at 0 and drop in the distributor.  You're going to have to move it no mater where you put it, because as the engine warms up the timing changes.  This will get you reasonably close and it will definitely start. 

The location of the #1 plug wire isn't important.  #1 is the terminal aligned with the rotor when #1 is supposed to fire.  If its advantageous you can make any terminal #1, so long as you follow the firing order and remember that Ford distributors spin counterclockwise.  Some caps are marked #1, others aren't.  If its marked I try to use it for ease of working on the engine in the future.

Ported vs. unported vacuum: I see what makes it idle best and use that.  Ported vacuum provides no advance at idle.  There's no vaccum at the port until the throttle is opened.  Sometimes this seems to help, other times it seems to want the vaccum all the time.  I believe factory they were connected to ported, but there's a lot of reasons for that which have nothing to do with how well the engine runs (emissions, etc.). 

 

2/11/2021 11:49 AM  #6


Re: Distributor installation

Uncle Tony has a pretty good explanation of vacuum advance on distributors. After talking with Sally I run mine with the vacuum disconnected as my particular motor runs best that way. Ymmv.

https://youtu.be/r7ggHhdujj0


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/11/2021 8:26 PM  #7


Re: Distributor installation

The biggest problem is when the distributor won’t go all the way in the block because the oil pump driveshaft is not in sync with the new distributor.

If you have the old distributor, remove the gear from it and you can use it to turn the pump shaft in ten degree increments until it will drop in.


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2/12/2021 6:34 AM  #8


Re: Distributor installation

MS wrote:

The biggest problem is when the distributor won’t go all the way in the block because the oil pump driveshaft is not in sync with the new distributor.

If you have the old distributor, remove the gear from it and you can use it to turn the pump shaft in ten degree increments until it will drop in.

Yeah, that's the most annoying part about installing a Ford distributor.  I'm not a huge fan of their oil pump driveshaft either, very spindly.  The Chevy system is better, but could fail due to the plastic collar they use stock.  The ARP driveshaft replaces that collar with metal and solves the problem.  Fords are still tied to the tiny hex to drive the pump and distributor.  Nothing can be done about it.  ARP just uses a better material, and I've never heard of one failing, but its still not a great design IMO. 
 

 

2/13/2021 10:31 AM  #9


Re: Distributor installation

MS wrote:

The biggest problem is when the distributor won’t go all the way in the block because the oil pump driveshaft is not in sync with the new distributor.

If you have the old distributor, remove the gear from it and you can use it to turn the pump shaft in ten degree increments until it will drop in.

I've found that if you rotate the engine, either manually (socket on the crank bolt), or with the starter, and keep slight downward pressure on the distributor, the oil shaft will line up within a quarter to half of crank rotation.  Works for me.
 


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

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