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After 10 years it's time to replace the tires on my '69 Mach 1. I am currently running Federal 595 Super Steel (225 45 R 17 and 255 40 R 17) a brand sold primarily out west. I've never been happy with the ride always a vibration. They have been re-balance several times over the years the last time on Hunters new $20.000 Road Force machine and that's the best they have been but still have an annoying vibration at highway speeds.
Can anyone recommend a brand that is round and balances out well.
My problem isn't suspension I have global West coil over and TCP rack and pinion all new.
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You are asking for opinions. I'll offer mine. I have had michelin pilot sports on 3 different performance oriented daily drivers (99 Mustang Cobra, 04 CTSV, and 04 GTO) and I really like them.... in the summer. Really good dry grip. I had different wheels & tires for the winter.
For my wife's car, and other typical coupes and sedans, I really like Yokohama YK580's. They are great on wet or dry pavement, are real quiet, and wear even if your shocks and alignment are good. They are 60K rated, and I have gotten 70K+ on more than one set. (EDIT: I now see that the YK580 is replaced with the YK740).
Any tires that have lasted 10 years have done a lot of sitting, and will develop some flat spots which will cause vibrations you probably can't fix by rebalancing.
One of my sons put in 7+ years at Discount Tire. I learned A LOT about tires during those years.
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When I dump these Nitto 555s I'm going back to the Michelin Sports. Imo, better ride and grip. But I do like the looks of the Nittos.
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I bought Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s. They got great reviews on TireRack and were reasonably priced.
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I've been happy with Sumitomo tires. Reasonable cost, good ride.
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marsfl1 wrote:
After 10 years it's time to replace the tires on my '69 Mach 1.
You do know that tires really should be replaced every 5 years or so, regardless of how much tread you have on them? The rubber degrades and breaks down over time and as best I know, the general school of thought is that 5 years is it for a tire...
I currently have Dunlop on my car, but I feel that the wet weather grip is not as good as it should be. I think I might be looking at Michelins too. Something about going sideways on a wet road will cause you to go home and rethink life...
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TKOPerformance wrote:
I've been happy with Sumitomo tires. Reasonable cost, good ride.
Which type of Sumitomo do you have, because I had a set of Sumitomo and they were like driving on ice as soon as the roads got any moisture on them. Are these on your classic Mustang?
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I had the Michelins on my car for a while. By far the least grip when compared to Comp T/A or Nittos..
I have not put enough miles on my new Nitto 555s to really give a review. Thinking they might have balance issues, but it might be the small shop’s balancer. He put tires on my Durango and it vibrated. A redo at Discount cured the vibes on it. Might have to do the same on the Mustang.
Michelins were truly round and balanced well. Quiet, but not real sticky. A little smaller section width than other brands.
Comp T/As were round but very noisy tread. Had the best LOOK of all the brands.
Nittos are fairly quiet and really great traction. A little wider than other brands, so be careful if clearance is an issue.
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I have had great luck with all my cooper tires that ive had installed on my few cars and a truck that I own. I recently over the winter purchased some continentals for my 2015 Mustang and I must say I was very impressed with the performance on dry pavement and in snow. I had to drive my car 30 miles on snow and icy roads plue highway.
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Another thing to consider is the temperature that you’re driving in as well.
Almost all of the super duper ultra high performance tires are great in warm to hot climates.
When it gets down to around 40F they can be like driving on ice.
At least investigate that if you’re driving at 32F in the morning and 70F by afternoon....kinda extreme but it happens.
Another thing I have noticed are the tires with the solid ribs for treads, great for turns but they tend to ride rougher and hydroplane on water.
Where I live it can 30-40F in the morning and 60-70F by end of day.
We can easily have a 20F temperature change within a 30 mile drive...usually driving by Keweenaw Bay/Lake Superior.
I have Pirelli A/S and they run on narrow side.
Traction is decent for the rough potholed roads in Michigan.
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I bought Sumitomo. there are no complaints. I like everything
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Master craft ,I think part of cooler tire ,So far they work well.
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Toploader wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
I've been happy with Sumitomo tires. Reasonable cost, good ride.
Which type of Sumitomo do you have, because I had a set of Sumitomo and they were like driving on ice as soon as the roads got any moisture on them. Are these on your classic Mustang?
They are on my '67 and '89. I do not drive those cars in the rain, so I can't comment on that. I had a set on my F250 that drove okay, but didn't wear very well. That truck chews up tires though (heavy + a LOT of torque).
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I'm beginning to wonder if tires operate differently on the classic cars with them being lighter and having different suspension set ups?
We have Michelin on our late model Mazda and they handle well in the wet.
Is this a possibility?
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Toploader wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if tires operate differently on the classic cars with them being lighter and having different suspension set ups?
We have Michelin on our late model Mazda and they handle well in the wet.
Is this a possibility?
A specific tire can be matched better or worse to a specific vehicle based on variations between the vehicles. For example, the Sumitomos I decided to try on my F250 got rave reviews from guys who had gas powered trucks. They claimed the tread wear was excellent, etc. On a Diesel that's significantly heavier and makes much more low end torque the tread life is anything but excellent. I would term it at best average.
Wet weather performance is the product of one thing: siping. Michelins have always been a good wet weather tire because they tend to have more siping than other makes. Siping reduces a tire's tendency to hydroplane.
With a classic one thing to always consider is what the alignment on the car is like. These cars were designed for bias ply tires, and aligned like cars had been for the decades before, not since. A radial tire on a car with an alignment meant for bias ply tires will feel squirrely. Its one of the reasons why alignment is so important. A properly aligned classic Mustang set for street performance that has the Shelby drop and all components are in good shape should handle more or less like a new car.
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We are talking brand names, but nit differentiating between the various tire models within that brand, when I said Michelins, it meant Pilot Sport 3, which is same as what came on my new Shelby GT350. Quite a different tire than a passenger car Michelin all season tire with max siping and maybe a different aspect ratio having softer or stiffer sidewalls, etc.
So, I think brand is kind of secondary to the type of tire itself. And your intended use of that tire. Kind of like choosing a camshaft. What works for sal might not be what works for you.
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That's definitely true, and whenever selecting any tire you need to pay close attention to its intended use. A tire made more for a track is not going to wear well and will perform horribly in the wet. An all season tire is going to leave something to be desired in terms of dry traction, but should handle well in the wet and wear well.
Best advice I can give is go to Tire Rack and check reviews. Most decent tires have hundreds of reviews, and you can search by vehicle inside those reviews. I pay closest attention to the reviews of those who have cars and driving styles closest to my own. How a tire performs on a FWD Honda driven by a commuter who's concerned about gas mileage is meaningless when I'm putting the same tire on an AWD car that puts 350HP to the wheels and handles like its on rails.
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