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12/21/2021 8:58 AM  #1


Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

Hi Alessandro,   I just ordered that differential for the Ford 8 inch under the "Monkey Grip Extreme" name from eBay and was searching for some information.  I found that it is also sold by Powertrax as well.  On the Summit site I found a review from "Alessandro" that I think is you.  The review is from 2018.  Are you still happy with the differential?
 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

12/22/2021 1:30 AM  #2


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

 


Hello Rufus , well the differential is working good , but i got to beware for some hidden things that leave me doubt also these days . It's a bit long story and i don't know if you know it completely . 
I will try a brief for you :  The lsd case is little bigger as supposed and do not fit perfect . 
What i found wrong : the lsd case spin against the pinion input bearing seat . This wall needs to be grinded a lot to fit . 
Why you need to grind a lot : because when you need to do backleash you need to move left/right . and without grinding this  move is forbidden . 
What is going wrong right now : I grind as much as i can the outside of "pinion bearing seat " to have some distance  and at least .005 freespace between lsd and axle case , at the end of correct backeash . 
I haven't care about  friction between one spinning thing too close at wall , this action have grind more from that seat . I look at it after a couple of year and i sow   bearing partially  exposed . 
One day i will have a big failure on that 8 inch just because the pinion seat will not be anymore and bearing will not have anyting to stay in place .  that will be a big bang . 
If you have just order it , you are still in time to send it back and buy a different brand . 
For all the gold i will NEVER suggest anyone to buy that one " power grip pro " unless they modifed the case size .  
hope is all clear , you can ask anytime ! 
alex
 

 

12/22/2021 3:59 AM  #3


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

just to be clear : i have forget that i did 2 feedback : first negative , second positive . Sayd that the 8 " will not fit properly the housing without a big grind on an awful spot . The Lsd elical gear is probably the best solution and virtually manitenance free ... no clutches to change ,no special oil ,... simply it works good by itself , but the 8 " case is not  . Maybe 8.8 or 9 " should not have this problem . must investigate or try to fit. 
At the end i would endorse you to send back and invest more for another brand , eaton , true track or others . but not the infamous GT 108028 that i confirm is what i use it now . 
If you need , just ask ! 

 

12/22/2021 8:27 AM  #4


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

That pocket bearing bore is where I've seen EVERY 9" case fail I've ever seen fail.  Grinding in that area is super sketchy.  The reason for the failure is a design flaw.  The pinion bearings on the 9" (and 8") are too close together, so Ford added a 3rd pinion bearing for extra support.  I will say using a solid pinion spacer does seem to prevent case failure.  The crush sleeve can oscillate back and forth under hard loading and let the main pinion bearings get cockeyed in the pinion support, which puts an enormous load on the pocket bearing and fractures the case blowing that little semi circle of iron off.  A solid spacer doesn't oscillate. 

 

12/22/2021 10:07 AM  #5


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

Thanks for the photos Alessandro.  I got a really good price on the helical gear carrier and for some reason I find this situation kind of an interesting challenge.  Looking at your photos, it seems that some quality Lipo suction procedures on the carrier itself can provide much of the clearance needed without affecting the integrity of the carrier.  Based on the shipment tracking information, I'll have the carrier soon so right after Christmas I'll be able to examine it.
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A little about my goals...I bought my Mustang to enjoy driving and owning in a normal manner; so, no racing or track days are part of the goal.  The reason for the limited slip is to provide good traction when one rear wheel is on a slippery surface such as grass, sand, etc. so that the Mustang won't get stuck in those situations that could have been avoided by the limited slip. 
 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
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12/22/2021 12:56 PM  #6


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

TKOPerformance wrote:

That pocket bearing bore is where I've seen EVERY 9" case fail I've ever seen fail.  Grinding in that area is super sketchy.  The reason for the failure is a design flaw.  The pinion bearings on the 9" (and 8") are too close together, so Ford added a 3rd pinion bearing for extra support.  I will say using a solid pinion spacer does seem to prevent case failure.  The crush sleeve can oscillate back and forth under hard loading and let the main pinion bearings get cockeyed in the pinion support, which puts an enormous load on the pocket bearing and fractures the case blowing that little semi circle of iron off.  A solid spacer doesn't oscillate. 

 

i know it's a terrible spot to grind ... but when you have no choice ...
 

 

12/22/2021 1:11 PM  #7


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

Rufus68 wrote:

Thanks for the photos Alessandro.  I got a really good price on the helical gear carrier and for some reason I find this situation kind of an interesting challenge.  Looking at your photos, it seems that some quality Lipo suction procedures on the carrier itself can provide much of the clearance needed without affecting the integrity of the carrier.  Based on the shipment tracking information, I'll have the carrier soon so right after Christmas I'll be able to examine it.
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A little about my goals...I bought my Mustang to enjoy driving and owning in a normal manner; so, no racing or track days are part of the goal.  The reason for the limited slip is to provide good traction when one rear wheel is on a slippery surface such as grass, sand, etc. so that the Mustang won't get stuck in those situations that could have been avoided by the limited slip. 
 

ok rufus , if you want to get in the rabbit hole i can give you a shot . 
You can make a spacer to fit between ring and diff . just one or two  0.010 inch .
These will let you move backwards the diff .  This move allows you to have some freeplay for backleash 
Its little difficult to explain .  
this last pics is about clear . you see that is not grided already , and the bearing should seat in the middle . The distance showing with caliber is what you should gain from grinding the case . Good luck ! 

Last edited by Alessandro (12/22/2021 1:17 PM)

 

12/22/2021 2:35 PM  #8


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

The ring gear spacer is thinking outside the box.  I like it.  Seems like lots of areas to work to produce both proper contact patch and carrier to case clearance.  I won't get to work on it until later this winter but I like having your ideas.  Thanks.


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
     Thread Starter
 

2/03/2022 12:15 PM  #9


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

Rufus68 wrote:

The ring gear spacer is thinking outside the box.  I like it.  Seems like lots of areas to work to produce both proper contact patch and carrier to case clearance.  I won't get to work on it until later this winter but I like having your ideas.  Thanks.

hello Rufus , how is going with differential surgery  ? 

 

2/03/2022 12:42 PM  #10


Re: Alessandro - Are you running the GT108028 differential?

That project is still on the shelf.  This winter has brought several other household projects that have taken priority.  I don't see being able to start on the new differential for a few months.  You know how busy life can get sometimes I'm sure. 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
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