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I am adding stainless brake lines to my '65. Instead of over tightening to get the lines to seat, is there a better way to install? My understanding is to rework the flares, but how and what to use?
thanks!
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I used my 'manual' double-flaring tool w/o problems on 3/16" brake lines. A few joints did need 'additional' tightening but nothing needing a great deal of additional force.
I did have trouble with 3/8" SS tubing used for fuel lines. Used my double-flare tool, ended up replacing w/Swaglok brand SS compression fittings. A friend w/a shop uses a hydraulic double-flare tool for all SS tube work because of the difficulty with getting a good 'flare' with the manual tool.
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BobE wrote:
A friend w/a shop uses a hydraulic double-flare tool for all SS tube work because of the difficulty with getting a good 'flare' with the manual tool.
Same here, had problems getting accepable double flares in SS brake lines with the tool that usually works:
Took the tool apart and used my 5 ton shop press:
And got acceptable results:
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I tried the manual tool for ss lines and it was pretty much impossible..I then bought the $300 hydraulic flaring tool and it worked perfect..I find the green lines much easier to work with though..however even with perfect flares I still had to seat my connections which took a while before they didn't leak..ss isn't easy to work with
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Don't flare the final cone shape all the way down where the tool bottoms out. Let the flare nut push it into the fitting and complete the final seal. I know stainless is alot harder to deal with, but it also work hardens alot more, making the final seal difficult if you tighten the cone shaped flare tool really tight.
Personally I have nver understood the need to have stainless vs steel, but I probably do alot of stuff that no one else would see the need to do.
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MustangSteve wrote:
Don't flare the final cone shape all the way down where the tool bottoms out. Let the flare nut push it into the fitting and complete the final seal. I know stainless is alot harder to deal with, but it also work hardens alot more, making the final seal difficult if you tighten the cone shaped flare tool really tight.
Personally I have nver understood the need to have stainless vs steel, but I probably do alot of stuff that no one else would see the need to do.
That's some fantastic advice..Yea I was squeezing it ask the way I the final flare..next time I'll try it your way
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A little trick for a better flare and a better seal... a drop of oil on all the surfaces while making the flare and installing the lines does a better job and eliminates abrasion.........jj
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Oil and brake fluid don't mix very well, just use a drop of brake fluid instead.
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Actually Alan the oil works better... no problems, just a dab will du ya.....jj
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jerseyjoe wrote:
Actually Alan the oil works better... no problems, just a dab will du ya.....jj
One word "Beeswax"!
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MustangSteve wrote:
Don't flare the final cone shape all the way down where the tool bottoms out. Let the flare nut push it into the fitting and complete the final seal. I know stainless is alot harder to deal with, but it also work hardens alot more, making the final seal difficult if you tighten the cone shaped flare tool really tight.
Personally I have nver understood the need to have stainless vs steel, but I probably do alot of stuff that no one else would see the need to do.
Steve, that may work with regular tubing but the force generated by the fittings will not be enough to complete the final double flare compression when using stainless steel tubing.
When I do brake line flaring I use never sieze on the dies and flush the tubes with alcohol and blow them out with compressed air to make sure there are no contaminents left in there.
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