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2/18/2022 3:49 PM  #1


Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

Been a while since I posted, but I still enjoy reading all the things you guys chat about.
In my coupe w/ factory A/C and a Sanden copressor, I noticed that when I'm on the interstate, I get a lot of warm air from the factory heater outputs, which overwhelms the cold of the A/C.
Do I need to seal the cowl vent and if so, anybody know how / where to do that? I poked around, but not too much this winter, but haven't figured out what my options are.

Thx Randy
 

 

2/18/2022 6:46 PM  #2


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

Do you have shut off on the hot water line to your heater?


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2/18/2022 7:28 PM  #3


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

The foam seals in the heater box are more than likely disintegrated. New seal set are available from most Mustang supply houses. The heater box needs to be taken out though.


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2/18/2022 7:34 PM  #4


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

I agree with Rudi. New seals plus a hot water valve in the pressure side of the heater core hose should help. A valve in BOTH hoses is even better.


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2/18/2022 8:04 PM  #5


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

On the early cars, hot water is always running through the heater core. I agree with Rudi about resealing the heater box. I also agree with Walt about a shutoff to use seasonally.
Edit: Beaten by MS while tryin' ta upload the pic.

Last edited by 50vert (2/18/2022 8:13 PM)


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2/18/2022 10:04 PM  #6


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

Ok, I definitely do not have a shutoff on the line into the heater box and I’ve never disassembled it. I’ll look into the replacement parts. Thx

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2/19/2022 9:26 PM  #7


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

MS wrote:

I agree with Rudi. New seals plus a hot water valve in the pressure side of the heater core hose should help. A valve in BOTH hoses is even better.

I had a valve on both hoses too....just cant remember what they were.....seems like they were for a 71 F100 with a 302.
 


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2/21/2022 9:26 PM  #8


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

I'm ordering gaskets and weather stripping while I'm at it. Do you guys think I should go ahead and replace the heater core since I have to pull all of that out anyway? I don't have a leak, but seems like a good idea unless you guys think my existing one is probably fine. Our car has been in a garage since it was new.
Assuming I do replace, should I get aluminum or get the more expensive copper style? I'm more interested in longevity than heat output, since we don't drive much in the winter.

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2/21/2022 9:54 PM  #9


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

Heater cores with extended tubes are available, these put the hose connections forward of the firewall.
The stock inside connections besides being messy are a major PITA to change
The issue with them is they are aluminum and like all aluminum rads and heater cores is that the antifreeze should be changed every couple of years for longevity.
I wonder if a good rad shop could add extensions to a stock copper rad.


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2/22/2022 10:23 PM  #10


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

Rudi
Originals and earlier replacement cores were copper/brass.

Easy way to put the hoses on under the dash when replacing the core:

Take a 6’ long piece of 5/8” heater hose and stick each end of the hose through the firewall holes from the engine side of the firewall, leaving s loop in the engine compartment.  Pull the ends into the interior until they reach the front seat.  Attach them to the heater core before installing the heater box under the dash.

Then grab the loop of hose in the engine bay and pull on it to move the box into position under the dash.  A helper is always good, but you can pull on the hose until the four heater motor studs come through the firewall. Install the nuts loosely and then go put that long vertical screw in under the dash.  Finished!


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

2/22/2022 10:38 PM  #11


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

MS wrote:

Rudi
Originals and earlier replacement cores were copper/brass.

Easy way to put the hoses on under the dash when replacing the core:

Take a 6’ long piece of 5/8” heater hose and stick each end of the hose through the firewall holes from the engine side of the firewall, leaving s loop in the engine compartment.  Pull the ends into the interior until they reach the front seat.  Attach them to the heater core before installing the heater box under the dash.

Then grab the loop of hose in the engine bay and pull on it to move the box into position under the dash.  A helper is always good, but you can pull on the hose until the four heater motor studs come through the firewall. Install the nuts loosely and then go put that long vertical screw in under the dash.  Finished!

 
That’s a great solution Steve for in cab connections.
All the ac and water hoses in my CAA  kit connect in the engine bay plus  the evap and heater core are copper.


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2/23/2022 10:34 AM  #12


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

Being 75 with bad back and vertigo problems, I took my 66 Ranchero to a local mechanic I trust to replace the heater core. It didn't have hoses. New core, hoses and labor came to 199.50. Small price to pay for wear and tear on the old body.

 

2/24/2022 9:00 PM  #13


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

You are very lucky to have found a mechanic you can trust to do it right.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

2/24/2022 9:30 PM  #14


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

pbrownrk wrote:

Being 75 with bad back and vertigo problems, I took my 66 Ranchero to a local mechanic I trust to replace the heater core. It didn't have hoses. New core, hoses and labor came to 199.50. Small price to pay for wear and tear on the old body.

Damn. For 200 bucks I'd drive to your location to have it done. On a 69 anyway.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/25/2022 10:35 AM  #15


Re: Do I need to seal the cowl vent?

To give you some background on this mechanic. I had a 1993 Dodge diesel serviced at his shop part of the service was to replace the rear end grease.  It had 126,000 miles on the Truck. When I picked up  the truck I made it about 5 to 10 miles from the shop and the rear end locked up. I checked and there was grease in the rear end. I called him and he had a tow truck take it back to his shop. A couple of days later he called and said come pick up the truck. There had been a problem with the ring and pinion gear. He handed me the keys. I asked what was the bill he said nothing, it came into my shop working and brokedown leaving. I wanted to at least pay for parts because just a lube would not cause the rear to fail. He said no way will I let you pay anything. That was several years ago now anything I can't do goes to his shop.

 

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