FYI FORD - MustangSteve's Ford Mustang Forum
The Internet's Most Knowledgeable Classic Mustang Information
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CLASSIC FORD MUSTANGS, YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE!
MustangSteve has over 30 years of Mustang experience, having owned 30 of them and restored several others. With the help of other Mustangers, this site is dedicated to helping anyone wanting to restore or modify their Mustang.... THERE ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS!!!!!
Visit MustangSteve's web site to view some of my work and find details for:
FYIFORD Contributors' PICTURES - Power Brake Retrofit Kits for 65-66 Stangs - Classic Mustang FAQ's by MustangSteve - How to wire in a Duraspark Ignition - Mustang Ride Height Pictures and Descriptions - Steel Bushings to fit Granada Spindles to Mustang Tie Rods - Visit my EBAY store MustangSteve Performance - How to Install Granada Disc Brakes MustangSteve's Disc Brake Swap Page - FYIFORD Acronyms for guide to all the acronyms used on this page - FYIFORD Important information and upcoming events

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?

4/10/2022 9:46 AM  #1


I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

And this is what I have.  A couple of oily cylinders and one with some rusty crap in it...LOL 

The cylinder walls look ok.  There's no edge at the top.  One I can see cross hatching.  Bad rings or valve seals

 cause the oily cylinders?

I have one spark plug i broke off along with a exhaust manifold bolt.  I was debating on cleaning up the heads

and installing some new spring and valve seals and running them along with the stock short block. 

Here's some pics. 








 

 

4/10/2022 12:55 PM  #2


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

I would go absolutely NUTS with a wire wheel on the chambers/valves etc. and see what cha got!
THEN.......I would turn 'em upside down and fill the chambers with ATF and check them tomorrow to see if any-much has leaked by the valves. IF all it good I would gasket port the intake and exhaust. Try to polish the exhaust AND grind out the EGR hump in the exhaust. Install new seals and springs and retainers.
Paint 'em a nice OLD Ford blue and install with a THIN /steel shim head gasket. Roller rockers are good for bragging rights (butt they don't do anything for performance) OR inspect the stock arms clean and re-use.
ALWAYS a good time for a 'healthy roller cam swap'.......but-chew know dat already!!
6sal6


Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
 

4/10/2022 8:46 PM  #3


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine




Sal, I think Ford took care of the humps…


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

4/10/2022 9:50 PM  #4


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

MS wrote:




Sal, I think Ford took care of the humps…

Did Ford stop the humps?  Mine had them 1970 351w.
 


Original owner - 351w,T-5, 4whl disks, power R&P
 

4/11/2022 5:03 AM  #5


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

Here's a couple thoughts:

1.) I've never seen a ridge at the top of a cylinder in an EFI engine.  Just because you can see cross hatch doesn't mean the bores are fine.  I've never seen an EFI engine where I couldn't still see cross hatch, even engines that had zero compression in a cylinder due to bad rings.  There seems a real tendency to try and skirt taking a block to the machine shop.  Honestly, worst case you need a new set of pistons.  Having a block bored and honed around here costs about $200-$350.  Ring seal is the single most important thing in an engine.  Any engine with significant mileage on it is going to have bores that are no longer round or straight regardless what the surface of them looks like.  The block moves around from thermocycling.  This is just what happens to cast iron.  I knew guys years ago who used to put the blocks of their future race engines in a tow rig for 100k miles before building the block into a race engine.  The block took a set being used like that and then was stable for the machining, creating a much better ring seal.  I'm a big fan of doing something right, and doing it once.  Fresh bores are a known quantity.  Used ones are not.  Just my $0.02.

2.) Ditto the heads.  A lot of GT40 and GT40P heads are cracked.  You won't be able to see the cracks with the naked eye most of the time.  Take the heads to the machine shop and get them Magnafluxed.  If they are crack free do the minor port work 6Sally6 suggests (do not touch the port floors in those heads, and don't try to change the shape of the ports, just blend and smooth), install new seals and springs to match the cam.

3.) Roller rockers are definitely worth power, as you are removing the second greatest friction point in the engine after the rings.  Now, you are talking like 10HP, not 100HP.  You are tied to pedestal rockers without a lot of expensive machine work (not worth it IMO).  Stay with a stock 1.6:1 ratio.  If you want a bit more cam, just get a bigger cam instead of changing rocker ratios. 
 

Last edited by TKOPerformance (4/12/2022 4:33 AM)

 

4/11/2022 7:10 AM  #6


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

Thanks for the info guys!

     Thread Starter
 

4/12/2022 4:38 AM  #7


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

One more thing on the heads: in the ports the two areas where you should spend most of the time are the throat (just behind the valve head) and the short side radius.  Just blend the throat into the back of the valve seat.  Often there is a step there that creates a big disruption to smooth flow.  The short side radius is typically the roughest section of casting in the port, so again, just make it smooth.  The GT40 and GT40Ps don't respond well to hogging out the ports.  Where the shine is low lift flow.  If you start trying to make the ports bigger you will ruin the low lift flow. 

Last edited by TKOPerformance (4/12/2022 4:39 AM)

 

4/12/2022 8:10 AM  #8


Re: I pulled the Gt40p head on the 1998 explorer engine

Looks like I should just swap for MS heads!....LOL  

Last edited by Steve69 (4/12/2022 8:11 AM)

     Thread Starter
 

Board footera


REMEMBER!!! When posting a question about your Mustang or other Ford on this forum, BE SURE to tell us what it is, what year, engine, etc so we have enough information to go on.