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    8/26/2022 10:48 AM  #1

    Modestojim
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    From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA
    Registered: 8/19/2022
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    Need tie rod shim

    Vehicle: 1963 Ranchero V-8.
    I'm in the process of installing power steering stuff that was gifted to me.  I'm not able to get information as to the source of the PS parts as the person who provided them (distant relative) is having serious medical problems and is not able to communicate.
    I think the parts were purchased as replacements for a '66 Mustang. 
    I've changed the center link to the correct Falcon unit. My spindles have been changed, about 15 years ago, to use the large wheel bearings and 11.3" discs with single piston calipers.  I don't remember what spindles they are. Everything I've done is with Ford parts.
    I've figured out the new left outer tie rod end is too small for the spindle, but maybe because I'm old, I can't figure out which shim I need to make this all work.  My Ranchero has been on my lift for 2 months, and I miss driving it.
    This shim is keeping the car on the lift.  Help.

    1963 Ranchero Deluxe, original 260 V-8, modified, AOD, 4 X Disc Brakes, Power Steering and more.
     

    8/26/2022 11:20 AM  #2

    Bullet Bob
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    Can't help on the shim but I'll bet MS will soon.  I just want to welcome you to the best place on the web and also thank you for including your location....wish more folks would.  Also, you are NOT the only Falconator on here.  Welcome again.
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    8/26/2022 12:47 PM  #3

    Rudi
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    Cal Dan < chockostangclassicmustang.com> he wiling tell you exactly what you need and can supply the parts as well, he is a very  knowledgeable classic Ford steering repair service person
    1-217-882-2083
    He has helped me many times with advice and service.

    Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
     

    8/26/2022 2:25 PM  #4

    Nos681
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    This may help identify what you may have.

    https://mustangsteve.com/granadadiscs/

     

    8/26/2022 9:08 PM  #5

    MS
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    From: Canyon Lake, Texas
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    The 63 V8 Falcon used the larger tie rods, same as 75-80 Granada spindles. It would help to know what spindles you have.  There is a number cast onto the vertical part of the spindle between the upper and lower ball joints.  If you can post it, or compare it to the MustangSteve chart, that will be half of the info needed.
    Since the car was converted to Mustang power steering parts, it probably uses 65-66 Mustang driver side tie rods, since they are the only tie rods that fit on the Mustang power steering parts. If your driver side outer tie rod has a weird bend in it, then that is the 65-66 v8 power steering tie rod.

    So, if you have a Granada spindle, you would need (based on those assumptions) the TRB-65GR adapter.
    If you have more info to go by, please post it here.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    8/27/2022 9:41 AM  #6

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    From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    The driver side spindle casting number is D0ZA-3108 which seems to be a 1970 Mustang part.  One year only, BTW.
    The tie rod end is a 65 V-8 power steering.

    Last edited by Modestojim (8/27/2022 9:50 AM)

    1963 Ranchero Deluxe, original 260 V-8, modified, AOD, 4 X Disc Brakes, Power Steering and more.
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    8/27/2022 3:13 PM  #7

    MS
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    Modestojim wrote:

    The driver side spindle casting number is D0ZA-3108 which seems to be a 1970 Mustang part.  One year only, BTW.
    The tie rod end is a 65 V-8 power steering.

    Great info
    You need a TRB-6570 tie rod adapter.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    8/27/2022 9:36 PM  #8

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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    Ordered.
    This is my Ranchero responding code 3 (red lights and siren) to an incident on US 62.
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    Last edited by Modestojim (8/27/2022 9:40 PM)

    1963 Ranchero Deluxe, original 260 V-8, modified, AOD, 4 X Disc Brakes, Power Steering and more.
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    8/28/2022 3:12 AM  #9

    MS
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    That is a cool car.
    My first car, at age 15, was a 63 Ranchero, but mine had the high powered 170 with a two speed automatic😖
    That one has to go downl in the ONE THAT GOT AWAY list.

    Will you be joining us at the bash September 17?

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    8/28/2022 7:21 AM  #10

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    From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    I wish I could, but this project has used up my resources for probably the rest of the year.

    1963 Ranchero Deluxe, original 260 V-8, modified, AOD, 4 X Disc Brakes, Power Steering and more.
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    8/28/2022 10:11 AM  #11

    rpm
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    Welcome to the forum Jim. Bullet Bob raved to me how cool these guys here were before I attended my first bash. I held off judgment until Corky held a bash clear across the country in Fort Walton Beach Florida. That 2017 bash was my first, and BB was spot on about his assessment of the quality of the forum members.

    If you're from Arkansas, how'd you pick Modestojim? I've got a few buddies up in Motown.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    8/31/2022 3:22 PM  #12

    MS
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    In Bearing Bob true fashion, he drove all the way from California to Ft Walton Beach, Florida only to watch us do a hurry-up-get-outta-town burnout to avoid the incoming hurricane.  I was driving my brand new 2017 Shelby GT350 and drove it all the way back to Texas in a blasted hurricane.

    The worst decisions make for the best stories…

    It is always great to see my Mustang Friends, no matter what the circumstances bring.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    8/31/2022 9:37 PM  #13

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    From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA
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    Re: Need tie rod shim

    Bearing Bob wrote:

    If you're from Arkansas, how'd you pick Modestojim? I've got a few buddies up in Motown.

    I lived in Modesto for about 20 years before moving to the Ozarks 15 years ago.  Bought my Ranchero in Stockton in 2004.Got my Pilot License in Modesto. Ha! Only the locals call it Motown!
     

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