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    11/26/2022 7:07 PM  #1

    Ron68
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    Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    So, when I drove the car home from my late brother in law's place, I noticed it had no passing gear. Come to find out that there is no kickdown rod installed! I don't know why he never installed it, but I need one now. The carb linkage appears to be correct per my restoration guide, but I have googled the number shown on the accelerator linkage diagram of 65 Mustangs with a V-8 - P/n 7A187, but the rod seems to be made of unobtainium for that year.  Does anyone know of a work around or an alternate rod that I could use or modify?
     

    68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
     

    11/26/2022 9:27 PM  #2

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Do you have the bell crank assembly on the intake manifold?

     

    11/26/2022 9:33 PM  #3

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    7A187 is only the partial number that identifies the part as an automatic transmission kickdown rod or cable. The prefix and suffix identify which particular engine,transmission and body style the kickdown rod/cable fits. Here is a C5OZ-7A187-A kickdown rod but I have no idea which engine/transmission/body it fits. Do you have the complete part number for the '65 289/C4/Mustang kickdown rod? I guess you can call these folks and ask.
    https://www.connecticutclassiccarparts.com/parts/part?manufacturer=Ford&type=Kick%20Down%20Rod&part=C50Z-7A187-A

    As many folks as there are who are converting from the C4 to a T5 I would think a Wanted ad here or other Mustang sites would generate a response. 

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    11/26/2022 10:04 PM  #4

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Unless you just want to make it original, I much prefer the 66 style kickdown which eliminates all that stuff on the intake manifold, greatly simplifying things.
    It has a lever on the accelerator pedal assembly that pulls a short cable which pulls a short lever on the side of the tranny.
    And the parts are much easier to come by, and they work better.

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    11/26/2022 11:38 PM  #5

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Nos681 wrote:

    Do you have the bell crank assembly on the intake manifold?

    Yes. Bellcrank is there.

    68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
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    11/26/2022 11:39 PM  #6

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    MS wrote:

    Unless you just want to make it original, I much prefer the 66 style kickdown which eliminates all that stuff on the intake manifold, greatly simplifying things.
    It has a lever on the accelerator pedal assembly that pulls a short cable which pulls a short lever on the side of the tranny.
    And the parts are much easier to come by, and they work better.

    If I can’t find a rod then I will definitely look into that configuration

    68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
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    11/27/2022 1:46 PM  #7

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Anyone ever try this item? Looks to be a bolt on to the throttle/pedal arm in order to use the cable for kickdown.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/184612877647 
    Might be an easy way to get my kickdown working.
     

    68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
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    11/27/2022 10:44 PM  #8

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Ron68 wrote:

    Anyone ever try this item? Looks to be a bolt on to the throttle/pedal arm in order to use the cable for kickdown.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/184612877647 
    Might be an easy way to get my kickdown working.
     

    That bolt-on arm was used on 6 cylinder cars. '66 V8 cars had a similar arm that was welded to the throttle linkage and there was no bellcrank bolted to the intake. '66 cars (I6 & V8) had a cable instead of the rod used in '65.
    You can see the welded arm on '66 throttle linkage here:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373019460901?epid=1523032281&hash=item56d9b14525:g:RkEAAOSwFqJek6TX&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsEUJTbJxVinOZLiRy1KvAYvQSR2CnPSuLj6wRC1Phyf4bGU97906Uk1Ii4iHDDakBm%2BagG3vbv%2Bg4mC37fJNXJzuC%2FGNhzgmNNyJx%2BgNbbYvnzmFTZ%2Fqc8wC8lPU2mqRusP2%2F58oTzJpcEvwIqIGpnop0hZeRdKWBV4aagNf%2BeA5Z2gzWwnXv30fG3ILq%2FmgqZ7RIT%2BWNyk0Ub9%2BnRJn4zdzaWx5TH0QeKdakPH97WTb%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zhnciXYQ

     

    11/28/2022 9:30 AM  #9

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    I have a buddy John that was on MS many years ago that makes these I believe.  Im facebook friends with him.  Look up John V on my page and send him a message.  

     

    11/28/2022 3:19 PM  #10

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Steve69 wrote:

    I have a buddy John that was on MS many years ago that makes these I believe.  Im facebook friends with him.  Look up John V on my page and send him a message.  

    www.kickdownrods   dot com.  (intentionally not making a direct link)

    Pays to archive things.   If he can't help, no one can

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    11/28/2022 4:05 PM  #11

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Steve69 wrote:

    I have a buddy John that was on MS many years ago that makes these I believe.  Im facebook friends with him.  Look up John V on my page and send him a message.  

    Thanks Steve (and Greg) I went to his website and sent him a message - awaiting his reply.
     

    68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
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    11/30/2022 2:49 AM  #12

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    Re: Kickdown rod for 65 289/C4

    Found one on eBay! Problem solved.

    68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
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