Bullet Bob wrote:

Where ya been, Corky?  Ron's new 65 vert and MS's new 65 vert both have Charley Quatro.

Thats my point, or are the engines gonna be Bone Stock too??
(notice how I slid an Engine reference in there)

Tubo

Tubo wrote:

Bullet Bob wrote:

Where ya been, Corky?  Ron's new 65 vert and MS's new 65 vert both have Charley Quatro.

Thats my point, or are the engines gonna be Bone Stock too??
(notice how I slid an Engine reference in there)

Tubo

Yup Corky - bone stock on mine. I'm very sure that MS couldn't just leave ANY Mustang he has bone stock. :-)
My 65 is an early 65 that was restored back in 1985 by my late brother in law. I bought the car from his estate. My current issue is that he never installed a kickdown rod. I have been chasing parts and asking for pictures if anyone has the same throttle system as I have (see pictures) that could post a picture of the complete system hooked up. Know anyone with at set up like mine?

Ron, you want my kickdown system?

Greg B wrote:

Have you checked v8 comet, falcon of the 63/64/65 era?

One thing you can eliminate for sure is small block Galaxie of those years. Its longer.

 I know that the 221 that was pulled out to the 65 has that same bellcrank setup as the 289 in it now. I only wish my late brother in law was still around to talk to about how he put it all together. :-(
I will keep that in mind.
 

Ron68 wrote:

Greg B wrote:

Have you checked v8 comet, falcon of the 63/64/65 era?

One thing you can eliminate for sure is small block Galaxie of those years. Its longer.

 
Here is the bellcrank on the 221 that is identical to the one on the 289.


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Wow, a road draft tube!  Haven't seen one of these in a long time. Curious, is the oil filler tube in the timing chain cover?  And is there a small oil fill w/a spring loaded cap on the distributor?
 

Bullet Bob wrote:

Man, that mess of linkage would make a great SPCC trophy...already has the spark plugs.

 
Here’s a picture

What I was wondering was if that linkage got changed the same time they made the change to six bolt. 

So that linkage type could be found on anything 5 bolt automatic.

I was not aware that the 221 was ever used in the Mustang.  I thought it was finished in 62.  Wikipedia says it was phased out in May '63, 

TKOPerformance wrote:

Ford never put a 221 in the Mustang.  260s were rare, and only an early '65 option.  My understanding is that they have tiny bores (like 3.5") severely limiting valve size and thus performance.  I have heard of the occasional Mustang that ended up with a junkyard 221 as a replacement engine for its 260 or 289, because the mechanic either didn't know or didn't care.  It would only bolt in to an early car though, because of the 5 bolt bellhousing, unless they swapped in the trans the engine came with as well.

The car was bought used by my wife's father in 1970. It was her first car. It had been modified somewhat because it had not two, but six tail light assemblies - kinda like a Cougar. It also had the 221 with an early model C4. It was an A Code car, but someone obviously swapped out the engine at least. The transmission was originally listed as for a 1962 Fairlane by the number on the housing. It also had the shifter with the green dot. When my brother in law did the restoration back in 1985 he found a correct year 289 and a C4 that he had modified with the Command Shift valve body (have paperwork on it) and he installed the correct shifter. I have the original shifter for it. He also got rid of the six tail lights and replaced the rear valance.
I've done some looking online at the various throttle bellcrank assemblies for various year Falcons, Comets, Fairlanes, Fords, Mercurys,  etc and have yet to find the exact model bellcrank that I have so that I can see the whole setup in a car.  The search continues..........
 

Ron I think I got this figured out.  You have a hybrid piece that was modified and put together.   Your bellcrank assembly is Fairlane:  your throttle rod is original Mustang.   What you have missing is obviously the kick down rod,  but what is also missing is the original accerator linkage that went with that particular accerator bellcrank assembly.   What was mated together was the 65 Mustang throttle rod to work with that bell crank.   

Your solution to this is going to be switching it to the pieces MS is offering.   Then its all 65.

Take a look at this.  Look at the Fairlane throttle rod.   When you picture The pieces working together in your mind, and look at your pictures, then you can see how your relative modified the pieces to work.

https://www.2040-parts.com/ford-1963-1964-fairlane-small-block-v8-throttle-linkage-221-260-289-i2155211/

From what I see on the engine, that appears to be a pre 65 engine.

Is that a 5 bolt or 6 bolt engine block?

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