MS wrote:

And timing cover and balancer. And custom mounts for the sanden compressor

That dont sound like a good route lol.
 

I have a complete Fox 5.0 single serpentine setup on the shelf against a possible future need but I'm not sure about the timing cover.  Does the reverse rotation pump require a particular cover?  The one on the heap came from a "Standard" 5.0 which uses a clockwise rotation pump.  I had to drill it for the dip stick but that's all.

Last edited by Bullet Bob (3/03/2023 7:27 AM)

There are several timing covers used on the 5.0.  Here's a decent site with pics and descriptions about the differences

https://support.cvfracing.com/hc/en-us/articles/360058972694-Small-Block-Ford-Tutorial

In short, yes, the reverse rotation pump uses a different timing cover, but you can get the right cover that also has provisions for a mechanical fuel pump and timing cover mounted dipstick. 
 

Well, I'm going to do it at some point for a couple reasons. 

1.) I find the supplied Borgesson power steering pump brackets to be Mickey Mouse.  I can mount the Saginaw pump is a Fox accessory cradle with an adapter and serpentine belt pulley from Wild Horses 4x4.  This will eliminate the flex that exists in the Borgesson mounting system.
2.) I'd like to get my AC working at some point.  I want to ditch the factory compressor.  I already know how to rebuild the Fox compressors and they are relatively cheap used.
3.) I want to get rid of the intermittent belt squeal on start up from my 3G alternator.  Yes, I know there are other options here to fix this, but they don't address my other concerns vis a vis accessories and mounting. 
4.) Was going to swap to an aluminum water pump at some point anyway. might as well just use the same GMB pump I have on my '89 GT. 
5.) Along those lines I'm trying to set up my '67 and '89 so they use as many common parts as possible.  That way it reduces the number of spares I need on hand and the systems I need to know how to work on.  Both are already T5 cable clutch cars.  I'll probably put the '94-'03 Cobra brakes on the '67 I already have on the '89.  If the accessories are the same then that's just another thing in common (an alternator becomes and alternator regardless which car, etc.).  The '67 is getting a 5.0 based stroker at some point, and the '89 already has one.  If I swap the rear in the '67 I'll most likely just go to an 8.8. 
 

Thanks guys for the good info.  Great site, Tom, I'll keep that in mind.  May never build another engine but......

BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:

6sally6 wrote:

WHY ! ?......just cause ya can ?..... Cause ya on't to !
ABDFI as the famous MS sez..........
6sal6

MS has a serpentine system on everything lol.
 

I want to see a pic of the one on his air compressor

Saw this on ebay.  Wonder if it clears fuel pump

MS wrote:

Saw this on ebay. Wonder if it clears fuel pump

looks like it would be close to A/C.
 

That really isn't much different than the Borgesson bracket.  Where both are a bad design is there is no support on the rear of the pump.  In factory GM systems there was always a second bracket that supported the rear.  The v-belt systems used a brace to the exhaust manifold.  The serpentine systems mounted the pump in a cradle like the Fox system.  These non factory setups are relying on the rigidity of the bracket and 2 bolts.  When the pump is under load it flexes the bracket, which changes the belt tension.  If so lose one of the bolts, or one backs out you're in real trouble.  Factory systems are always better because they had to go through design ad testing suitable for sale to the public covered by a warranty the manufacturer wanted the buyer to never use. 

As has been mentioned somewhere on another thread or two, Lee has a casting that uses Saginaw innards and looks like a Ford 5.0 on the outside.  Bolts up just like the Ford 5.0 pump but is quiet and works like a Saginaw.  Josh has one and so do I and we are both happy....and, no mounting BS.  Also, we are both running Borg. boxes.
 

Last edited by Bullet Bob (3/05/2023 4:26 PM)

Bullet Bob wrote:

As has been mentioned somewhere on another thread or two, Lee has a casting that uses Saginaw innards and looks like a Ford 5.0 on the outside.  Bolts up just like the Ford 5.0 pump but is quiet and works like a Saginaw.  Josh has one and so do I and we are both happy....and, no mounting BS.  Also, we are both running Borg. boxes.
 

 
If only someone had a tested and true product that worked. Huh.
Yes, this is sarcasm.

Good night praying all is well I am running a factory 5.0 serpentine belt with a hole drilled in the alternator bracket for the dipstick with a 289 timing cover with a cam eccentric and a 289 pan with a crank griddle with a 5.0 P/S pump I have a fuel injection system but just in case I go back carb lol 3 year’s running a Holley Sniper on it it’s a 331 May be switching out to a factory stock 5.0 liter with a AOD with factory fuel injection only time will tell