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    4/25/2023 3:03 PM  #1

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    GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    What is your suggested spark plug and gap to run with these?

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    4/25/2023 3:47 PM  #2

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Another factor is the ignition system you're running. 

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    4/25/2023 4:22 PM  #3

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

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    4/25/2023 5:37 PM  #4

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    seems like I ran Autolite Copper Core Spark ap 104 before in the 289

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    4/25/2023 5:57 PM  #5

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    I would use whatever a 1998 Explorer 5.0 engine uses. Gap at 0.060” assuming you have electronic ignition with a powerful coil.

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    4/26/2023 3:34 PM  #6

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    MS wrote:

    I would use whatever a 1998 Explorer 5.0 engine uses. Gap at 0.060” assuming you have electronic ignition with a powerful coil.

    It is showing AP 104 Autolites copper $4.69 each at oreillys and $3.49 at Autozone
    says gapped at 0.054 for 1998 Explorer.
    I ran by and grabbed 8 of them.
     

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    4/26/2023 4:35 PM  #7

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    MS wrote:

    I would use whatever a 1998 Explorer 5.0 engine uses. Gap at 0.060” assuming you have electronic ignition with a powerful coil.

    WHAT!! 
    I guess that means I have been gapping mine incorrectly all these years.
    Mine are set to 40 thou with a Crane distributor, Hi six control  box and a Crane Fire Ball coil.
    I’m devastated, don’t know what to do, might need therapy!😱
    OBTW I’m using NGK 5 -1  plugs.

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    4/26/2023 7:33 PM  #8

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Rudi, if you come to the bash, there is some late night therapy that will help you out.
     

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    4/27/2023 11:25 AM  #9

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Let me know if you can gap a plug at 0.054” exactly. My old worn out spark plug gapper can barely tell 60 from 45

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    4/27/2023 12:17 PM  #10

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    I have a few gauges, one is a wire type, the others are like a tapered ramp and I suppose feeler gauges are an option.
    I’ve never used a gapping  device, just the ground strap bending thingee on the wire gauge in conjunction with tapping the strap on my vies.
    Just out of curiosity what will the benefit going to .060” from .040”?
    Doesn’t increasing the gap retard the timing a bit or is it the other way round?

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    4/27/2023 12:19 PM  #11

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    MS Hope your wife reads  this.. I see a stocking stuffier in the future.

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    4/28/2023 10:17 AM  #12

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Rudi-Toodee......I believe the advantage is a strong/fatter spark because it is 'jumping farther' across to the strap.
    BITD....the old stocker coil could only jump a 32 thous. gap at best. The modern CD unit will knock your "d-ck-in-the-dirt" if you hold onto the plug wire while its running!!!( axe me how I know this!)
    Makes a funny taste in your mouth too!
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    4/28/2023 1:09 PM  #13

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    So, THAT’S what happened…

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    4/28/2023 3:22 PM  #14

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Well since we are getting a little off topic I will admit I like sticking my tongue on a fresh 9v battery. 

    Anyway years ago, taking the red car to our local 1/8 mile. It made no different with plug gap with the Pertronix.

     

    4/28/2023 6:38 PM  #15

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    red351 wrote:

    Well since we are getting a little off topic I will admit I like sticking my tongue on a fresh 9v battery. 

    Anyway years ago, taking the red car to our local 1/8 mile. It made no different with plug gap with the Pertronix.

    What did you gap them at and what plugs did you use?
     

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    4/29/2023 7:41 AM  #16

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:

    red351 wrote:

    Well since we are getting a little off topic I will admit I like sticking my tongue on a fresh 9v battery. 

    Anyway years ago, taking the red car to our local 1/8 mile. It made no different with plug gap with the Pertronix.

    What did you gap them at and what plugs did you use?
     

    This is with the Cleveland. NGK-UR4GP come out of the box just shy 40 thous. I went up 50 making little to no  difference so settled with 40.

     

    4/29/2023 12:13 PM  #17

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    gotcha

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    4/29/2023 1:20 PM  #18

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Does anyone know the fit of stock Mustang manifolds vs. spark plug clearance on P heads?

    If multiple things can go wrong, the one that will go wrong will be the one that causes the most damage.
     

    4/29/2023 6:40 PM  #19

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    Re: GT40p heads and HiPO manifold spark plug question

    Greg B wrote:

    Does anyone know the fit of stock Mustang manifolds vs. spark plug clearance on P heads?

    I have  the hi.po
     

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