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6/22/2023 1:10 PM  #1


T5Z driveline vibration

66 mustang, T5Z Transmission, 97 Explore 302 with correct Flywheel and damper 50 oz, 8 inch rear end

I bought a kit from CJ Pony that include new T5Z, Driveshaft and MDL trans mount years ago.

Between 45-55 mph I get vibration in driveline. I have tried 2.5 and 4.0 degree shims on pinion. Best results was 4degree shim that raised front of pinion up. Still some vibration 45-55.

My transmission tail is down at 4.6 degrees. I can not raise it because there is only 3/16 inch clearance between trans and floor cross member. I think 3 degrees is  max U joint angle for best results.
Was going to install Ron Morris 1/2" lowering motor mount kit ran into a problem. Not able to remove one bolt on shock tower. nut rounded off. Engine is in car. Difficult area to get to.

My question is who has a T5Z with 302. Do you have a vibration issue at 45-55 mph. What is your Transmission Tail shaft angle? What has been done to fix vibration if originally had problem?

thanks

 

6/22/2023 3:26 PM  #2


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

I think you are on the right track trying to change the tailshaft angle.  If you can find a set of Metwrenches they will probably allow you to remove that rounded nut.  They grip on the flats not the corners and I've had really good luck removing even rounded fasteners with them.  I even got off a nut I had beat a smaller metric socket onto and rounded it off worse before using the Metwrench.  Not sure if they still sell them new.  They were an infomercial deal 20-30 years ago, but were also sold at Sears and maybe other places.  They really do work.  My 3/8"-10mm one has freed MANY a stuck bleeder screw over the years. 

 

6/23/2023 6:32 AM  #3


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

thanks for input
I am regrouping my thoughts and will attempt tackle issue soon

thanks

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7/21/2023 4:02 PM  #4


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

installed Ron Morris 1/2" lower motor mount kit. Changed my T5Z transmission output shaft from 4.6 degrees down to  1.5 degrees down. with no Pinion shims on rear axle vibration is gone. This setup has minimum clearance for repo cast HIPO exhaust manifolds. 

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7/21/2023 4:38 PM  #5


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

Ok, tranny pointing downward 1.5 degrees.

What is the angle of the rear end pinion yoke?

How much vertical distance was the engine relocated to take out three degrees?


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

7/22/2023 3:58 PM  #6


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

rear end with no pinion shims .6 degrees down. Meaning that drive shaft flange is up and rear of differential is down. the angles get confusing on paper. measured all my angles on apporpriate u joint with snap ring removed.
measured top of distributor before and after to monti carlo bar and dropped 1/2".
results have only drone from FlowMaster 40 mufflers. Not a problem I grew up with 8 brother and sisters

thanks

Ron Morris was nice too talk with went I called him and asked about his product

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7/22/2023 4:28 PM  #7


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

More Info
I have 4 1/2 reverse eye leaf spring and shelby relocation of upper control arm with 600 spring
66 T code Mustang with 97 ford explorer 302 and T5Z trans and 8" rear axle 3.55 gear set
I think leaf springs clap on severe bump hit floor pan at  front attachment point.. If I were to do it again I would go with 4 1/2 leaf spring with mid eye and spacer block. I would also stay with 4 speed and appropiate rear gear

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7/22/2023 4:39 PM  #8


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

Thanks
I have been chasing vibe at 80+ mph for over 25 years.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

7/23/2023 8:45 AM  #9


Re: T5Z driveline vibration

mjacobs - great news, glad it worked out for you.  Also, gives me some data to re-check on my setup.  Thank you for the info.


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

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