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Now my new 3G alt from Performance plus just quit charging. Its 2 months old and I bet it has lost the regulator on the back too. I went 6 years with this conversion using there fake regulator then I started eatting the regulators on the alt. Any ideas or trouble shooting help would be wonderful. I noted that the new alt would start out around 13.5 and within a hour it would read 12.5 but never drop with things like the AC on. Today It quit chargeing at around 12.18v
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Did you replace just the regulator or did you replace the whole alternator? Reason I ask is I'm wondering the condition of the brush surface on the rotor. I believe on the 3G that surface is replaceable (I remember doing it when I rebuilt the 3G for my '89).
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I replaced the alt with new from PA performance. I also i found on the net that there dummy fender regulator is to have 470Ohm from F to S tabs. I am getting 1.147 ohms on a 2K scale dont know if that is the problem. Basicly I am getting about 2-3 months of light duty driving. I am goint to wait for there call monday I think
Last edited by Cab4word67 (7/22/2023 11:29 AM)
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ok I think I found my problem. A bad wire connection melted my fuse block, didnt blow the fuse because it was not load related but melted it real good. Installed new wire and fuse block. tested and was charging at 13.9-14.2 I think its fixed.
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Yeah, that could definitely be the cause. Glad you found it.
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Did you check the diodes? One, or more could be defective. Although my experience is not the automotive field, most diodes fail 'open', but sometimes they fail 'closed', and failing closed can cause more problems than failing open.
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No I did not check the diodes, at least not the ones in the alt. The ones in the PA performance reculator are good. And the plus is both parts have lifetime warrenty they say
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Seems to be working now, I went in and re torqed the 2 screws just incase and have been running 14-14.2 and with AC blasting, the electric vac pump comming on when stopping and oh yeah the tunes cranked to hear over the exhust it is pumping out 3.6-13.8. At a idle with all on its 12.5-6. headlights dont seam to draw as they are LED. So I think its ok now. Did think about adding Ideal NoLoc corrosion inhibitor in the 2 ends of the fuse block and mite just do that anyway, cant hurt.
All of these readings are from the Holly EFI control box witch is wired direct to the battery
Last edited by Cab4word67 (7/31/2023 11:42 PM)
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I'd really keep an eye on it. 12.5-12.6 is just barely charging. Remember a 12 volt battery isn't really 12 volts its 12.6, because its made from six 2.1 volt cells. I'd want to see 13+ under all conditions, even under a full load. I would of course verify the output with a multimeter, but the Edge CTS in my F250 has a similar function and its been tested and proven accurate, so I wouldn't get my hopes up that the Holley is lying to you.
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I agree with TKO, even with everything on, at an idle it should be charging more than 12.5-6 volts.
What is your idle RPM?
At what RPM, above idle, does the voltage increase to the 13.5-8volts?
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Standard pulley diameters??
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Yes all standard pullys. including the one on the alt from performance. I will check again today. Idle is 750-775. It only shows this as a flashing low indacater at idle on the holley screen witch is powered direct from battery. I will check today. Need to move the cars anyway.
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OK found new proble that is also casing the low output I perrty sure. The large plug on the back of the 3G is loose. If I fidle with it I can start the charging. I will order a new one. May have damaged it when the main wire got hot? Shouldnt fit so loose.
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OK I think we are all repaired now. Putting out 13.9-14-2 and 13.4-6 with AC on and fan running with foot on the brake. There is no voltage drop from alt to battery. I replaced the plug set on the alt with new and all it tight fitting now.
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Sounds like you got it. Good deal.
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LOL then the belt got loose. I cant win for trying
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Question, As I have been preaty much through this whole system now. What I notice is when you start out it is 14.0-14.2. then it goes down to 138 I can turn everything on and its goes down to 13.2-4. But after about 15 mintutes fully loaded i will be at 12.5-6. What am I missing? This is on 90+ degree days
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Poor connection somewhere. When it passes a lot of current it gets hot. Heat means more resistance and more resistance means more heat. It's a self-licking ice cream cone. Are you running a stock harness with the firewall connectors?
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I would tend to agree. I would start by looking very closely at your grounds.
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Agree, check the connections, both positive and ground.
Also, re-reading your posts, it appears that your using two regulators ("dummy fender regulator"). From the wiring diagrams I see both the 2G and 3G alternators have internal regulators. I suggest calling PA to verify this is dummy fender regulator is needed, or not.
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