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    8/27/2023 8:25 AM  #1

    Alan
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    Bash Thrash starts

    Our town had a road rally to benefit a fitness center they are building.
    Took my 2 oldest granchildren with me in the Coupe. Got to the farthest point away on the trip and the Mustang died.
    Sitting at a stop sign for 20 to 30 seconds and just died. Has no spark. Fuel pump runs and has pressure. Pushed it into a parking lot and went back with a trailer and picked it up. Now I get to figure out what went out.
     

    67 Coupe, 5.0 EEC IV Fuel injected. T5, 3:70 rear
     

    8/27/2023 8:40 AM  #2

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Can you pull codes?

     

    8/27/2023 8:43 AM  #3

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    That probably would have been the smart thing to do, but i unhooked  the battery to try and see if resetting the ecu would do anything. Didn't help.
     

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    8/28/2023 2:29 PM  #4

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Take a look at the “TFI Worksheet”

    https://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/TFI_Diagnostic.shtml

     

    8/28/2023 5:31 PM  #5

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    OH !!!........fuel injected huh!? (figgerz!) 
    Still a lot to be said for the old 'controlled-drip'....
    6sally6
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    8/29/2023 4:23 PM  #6

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    A drippin pot still has to have spark. 
    I did trace down the culprit to the TFI module though. (I think). Have one and a new coil on order. Coil is 28 years old so i figured it might be time also.
    Speaking of drips, after i hauled the coupe home, the water pump decided it needed to be looked at also. Marked its spot with a little green puddle.
     

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    8/29/2023 4:44 PM  #7

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Once it gets its first bash nervousness over with, it will be ready to go to many future ones with minimal complaint.   Hope the new parts take care of it for you.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    9/01/2023 5:09 AM  #8

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Well a new TFI module did the trick. Started right up again. Put the new coil and took it for a spin.
    Tightened the water pump bolts. Will see if it still leaks.
     

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    9/01/2023 2:12 PM  #9

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Awesome!

     

    9/01/2023 4:21 PM  #10

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Alan wrote:

    Well a new TFI module did the trick. Started right up again. Put the new coil and took it for a spin.
    Tightened the water pump bolts. Will see if it still leaks.
     

    Excellent. Now please come and Thrash my 67 for me.

    Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
     

    9/02/2023 9:58 AM  #11

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    Yup, the Heap left me high and dry earlier in the year.  Left the breakfast gathering, got to the first stop...died, ded. due to TFI.   Now I carry a complete, tested dizzy with the required tools for a swap.

    "you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
     

    9/02/2023 10:23 AM  #12

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    BB…I thought it was your PIP squeaker?

     

    9/02/2023 11:12 AM  #13

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    That was a year ago, Dan.  Found that one in the shop.  Thats when I started carrying the spare dizzy.  The TFI failure was a couple of months ago and was near the house, I let AAA get me home.  Yeah, a PIP failure is scarry 'cause you gots to press the dizzy apart to fix it.

    "you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
     

    9/02/2023 11:34 AM  #14

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    Had taken the remote part of mine off and put it on the dizzy again when i was chasing my backfire problems. Went ahead and put remote mount back on when i put this one on. Might have to throw a spare dizzy in now.
     

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    9/02/2023 5:39 PM  #15

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    RV6 wrote:

    Alan wrote:

    Well a new TFI module did the trick. Started right up again. Put the new coil and took it for a spin.
    Tightened the water pump bolts. Will see if it still leaks.
     

    Excellent. Now please come and Thrash my 67 for me.

    Really want me to come and thrash your car? That might be fun.

     

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    9/02/2023 9:45 PM  #16

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    I had to replace the TFI, coil, and PIP all within 6 months…it was like one failed at a time.
    Definitely a learning curve at the time.

     

    9/03/2023 6:00 AM  #17

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    i guess my car must be really nervous as MS suggested. Alternator quit charging last night.
     

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    9/03/2023 7:08 AM  #18

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    Sometimes when it rains, it pours.  

    65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
     

    9/03/2023 7:17 AM  #19

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    Easy fix, BobE. See you at The bash!

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    9/03/2023 8:07 AM  #20

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    Yeah, battery measures 12.8, start the car with no accessories running, it measures 12.4.
    It is not making my wife too confident about taking it 785 miles. Keep telling her it will have all new parts by then if it keeps this up.
     

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    9/03/2023 8:23 AM  #21

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    Make sure you carry spares on your bash trip. After the Junction City mini bash I drove up thru Illinois, Wisconsin, and Iowa to visit a few friends. I had a starter, coil, and condenser fall, all of which were less than six months old.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    9/03/2023 10:07 AM  #22

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    Bearing Bob wrote:

    Make sure you carry spares on your bash trip. After the Junction City mini bash I drove up thru Illinois, Wisconsin, and Iowa to visit a few friends. I had a starter, coil, and condenser fall, all of which were less than six months old.

    Is this
    Bearing-Starter-Coil-Condenser-Bob?  Or an imposter with terribly bad luck? 
    Condenser???? I haven’t seen one of those in maybe 30 years. I guess that is why I haven’t had one go out in thirty+ years. On my 70 Boss 302.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    9/03/2023 11:30 AM  #23

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    Absolutely....BS...CCB

    "you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
     

    9/03/2023 12:06 PM  #24

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    Re: Bash Thrash starts

    i don't think my trunk will be big enough to carry all the spares.

    Wondering what  i need to add to my order. I have a new alternator, distributer and a spare belt ready to order. Already have a new waterpump.
     

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    9/03/2023 12:33 PM  #25

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    Alan wrote:

    i don't think my trunk will be big enough to carry all the spares..
     

     
    Aww come on. Those parts I listed are the small parts I carry, and will fit on the floor behind your seat. And that's not including the floor jack and jack stand. After Ft Walton Beach BB1 likes my plethora of stuff.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

     

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